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Old 01-18-2006, 01:23 PM #1
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Official Gen1/2/3 to/from Gen4 Parts Compatability

Too many people asking if X part will work in their Gen4 or if a Gen4 part will work in X gun. And feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything. So here we go....

Bolt:
Gen4 bolts are about 1/8" shorter than Gen3 bolts, so they will not work by just dropping them in. Some have put orings infront of their ram caps to compensate for this, but I would not reccomend it. Also, there are currently no aftermarket bolts out for Gen4s, but the Gen4 Hardshell bolt will be out soon. No reason to try and make a Gen4 bolt work in your Gen1/2/3, same thing just shorter.

Ram Sleeve/Poppit/Valve:
Gen4 Ram sleeve is a lot shorter than previous versions, have the bit of metal sticking out at the back for the ram cap, and have the integrated poppit/valve, so they will not work in any other gen. No aftermarket parts yet, but rumor has it that there will be a kit to retro fit the Gen4 valve system on other gens. Don't take my word on this though.

Ram:
See above.

Ram Cap:
Gen4 ram caps thread ONTO the body rather than INTO is, so no way no how it will work on anything else. Currently no aftermarket ram caps either, but really no reason for it.

LPR Block:
Gen4s use the same LPR blocks as Gen3s.

LPR:
All gen LPRs are interchangeable.

Volumiser:
All Intimidator volumisers are interchangeable.

Body:
NO!

Frame:
Nope, shorter than the other gens. No aftermarket parts out.

Trigger:
Currently the only aftermarket triggers that work in Gen4s are Gen4 Technas, the 05 CP triggers, and BL rollers. The reason for this is that there has to be a certain ammount of metal milled off the back for it to fit in the frame. However, all Gen4 triggers will work in previous gens.

Trigger Gaurd:
Nope, just different. No aftermarket parts out.

Board:
All Gen3 boards will work in Gen4s and the other way around. However, some have had troubles with the Predator board not being able to be screwed down.

Wiring:
Main wire harness is the same as Gen3, but the eye harness is just now one piece. There is no longer a connectiong poin midway through the wire, both the eyes are connected and go sttraight to the board. Should still be interchangeable though. Only aftermarket parts are the Trinity eyes which allow for a greater degree of misalignment.

Solenoid:
All Intimidator Solenoids are interchangeable. Gen4s use the same noid as the Gen3s.

Membrane Pad:
Gen4s use the same membrane pad as Gen3s.

HPR:
Do you really have to ask? Of course.

Barbs/Hoses:
All Intimidator hoses and barbs are interchangeable.

Feedneck:
Gen4s take the same feedneck threads as the later model Gen3s, the milled and not the pressed type.

Eye Covers:
Gen4s take Gen3 eye covers.

Detents:
All Intimidator detents are interchangeable.

Grips:
All but Classic grips are interchangeable.

Barrel:
Duh.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:08 PM #2
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I've heard there are issues with the predator board fitting and being screwed down, although it works fine if you don't screw it down.


Also there are aftermarket wires out, trinity eyes for example.


LPR Block is the same.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:13 PM #3
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GZs use .45 grips like the rest of the newer timmies.
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:43 PM #4
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:36 PM #5
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awesome thread sticky please, no more newbs asking whats compatible with what.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:53 PM #6
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:05 PM #7
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You should note that if you cut off the hose guard on the gen4 frame you can use any trigger.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:01 PM #8
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what cupseals are compatable with each other?
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:26 AM #9
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what cupseals are compatable with each other?
gen 1-3 are all compatible, but an alias cupseal needs an alias sleeve.
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Old 01-28-2006, 06:11 AM #10
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Old 01-28-2006, 06:24 AM #11
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I'm going to throw this in both threads, this is raymius's picture but you get the idea, heres the comments in the third thread from awhile ago.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...highlight=face

Highlights face because its what I used to search and find it.



Left is gen 1-2, right is gen 3.
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:07 PM #12
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My noid in my gene 4 might be blown . i want to know if the spare that i have will work or will i have to buy a new one. it is black and has green and black wires instead of the blue and red ones . does ne one know if it will work in my gun or not?
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if it fits, itll work
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:32 PM #14
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My noid in my gene 4 might be blown . i want to know if the spare that i have will work or will i have to buy a new one. it is black and has green and black wires instead of the blue and red ones . does ne one know if it will work in my gun or not?


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Solenoid:
All Intimidator Solenoids are interchangeable. Gen4s use the same noid as the Gen3s.


it helps to read posts before you ask questions that have already been answered.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:18 AM #15
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Gen 1 aka Classic Timmy eyes are Compatable with Gen 3 aka Dark, Alias etc.

Tried it last night because my dark eyes ripped and notice my classic had similiar eye wiring, strap them on and worked fine... NOTE:Eye membrane is a different story!
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:19 AM #16
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I tried to put a Gen4 timmy trigger in my 05 frame and it didn't fit at all. I had to shave a bit off of the front top lip of the trigger then a bit off of the tab under the microswitch screw for it to fit. Just thought you should know so you guys can change it.
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:52 PM #17
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I thought the GZ volumizers were different then others?
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:59 AM #18
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Wait, so Gen 4 trigger guards will or wont go on other Timmys?
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:12 PM #19
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will a 04 frenzy board fit in an 05 frame??
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:06 AM #20
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it may be just me, but i didn't quite understand the part about triggers. will a gen 2 trigger, like off of a 2k2, work with a gen 3 timmy, like a ripper 2.5?
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it may be just me, but i didn't quite understand the part about triggers. will a gen 2 trigger, like off of a 2k2, work with a gen 3 timmy, like a ripper 2.5?
Yes, only the Gen.4 triggers will not work w/ the gen. 2 or 3.


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