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Old 07-18-2005, 02:36 PM #1
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Spudnukl, Spudnukl...Wherefore art thou, Spudnukl?

It has been almost a month since I paid for my new spud nylatron bolt. As the days stretch into weeks, I am haunted by the insecurities known only to those who send money to perfect strangers they find on the internet.

Questions plague me. Shall I ever see my Spudnukl bolt? Does Spudnukl actually exist? I have never seen Spudnukl, perhaps he is just a pseudo-mythological figure contrived by men more powerful than I in order to suppress the simple minded. Can anyone truly know the nature of Spudnukl? Is there anyone who can search the mysterious nether-regions of cyberspace in order to retrieve my ill-fated payment of $25?

The world may never know.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:40 PM #2
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Well spudnukl is real. You shoulda used paypal or something secure.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:40 PM #3
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i have a spudnukl bolt, it's delrin. it should come call them, e-mail them like crazy..
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:59 PM #4
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Well I'd love to go searching for your $25, but it'd be hella easier to just go over to the guys house about a mile away and see what's up. Of course, since I don't have a problem, prehaps you should just email or call him.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:11 PM #5
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Yes I used PayPal. Yes I have emailed. I have received no responses.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:19 PM #6
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There is a place, I forget what the name is, but theyre government. They work this sortof stuff out.
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Well supposedly Spartacus was the only one who was selling Wrath Nylatron bolts, he worked out some deal with Spud to have exclusive rights or something. Who did you buy it from, spud himself, off eBay or from Spart? If it is either from Spart or Spud you will get it eventually, Spud just seems to take a long time, which is why most people complain about him. And to be honest with you, I have a Nylatron bolt and I have yet to have it work right for more than 5 games in a row. For some reason it swells more than any delrin bolt I have seen. I even had to sand this bolt for over 3 hours, using really fine sandpaper, just to have it fit inside the gun. But hopefully Spud has worked out these problems and you will get a good bolt.
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Spart was nice enough to sand mine down before he sent it to me, although I don't know why it would swell so bad. Have you ever put any lube onto it?
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No, never lubed it. Back when S!ress used to visit this forum he seemed to know the most about Nylatron and its properties and after I had already purchased it, he mentioned that contrary to the advertising of Nylatron it in fact swells more than delrin. I would have to totally agree with him after using this bolt, now. Then again, I am the only one who seems to have complained about this so, it might just be a bad bolt.
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Yes, I have exclusive rights the nylatron version, yes Spud is SLOW. He also has a bit of a quality control issue which I had to stay on top of, which is the main reason I have all but ceased selling them. Sorry to hear about your long wait Sinister, hope it pans out for you. If it's any reassurance, he's not a con artist, just a busy guy that gets behind schedule regularly and doesn't keep up with communication very well either. In my dealings with him I had very few time issues, it was more of quality. Maybe I'll design a superspud bolt myself, lol...

And nylatron is a composite material, while delrin is not. This means that there can be quality differences in a batch of nylatron straight from the factory. This is not Spud's fault, just the nature of the beast when dealing with nylatron...
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:06 PM #11
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Quote:
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No, never lubed it. Back when S!ress used to visit this forum he seemed to know the most about Nylatron and its properties and after I had already purchased it, he mentioned that contrary to the advertising of Nylatron it in fact swells more than delrin. I would have to totally agree with him after using this bolt, now. Then again, I am the only one who seems to have complained about this so, it might just be a bad bolt.
S!ress is correct, Nylatron does swell more than delrin. Proof:
(I posted this a while back, but they are some cool graphs that will clearly explain/illustrate the advantages of delrin over nylatron)

Delrin is also know as ertacetal C
Nylatron being used for bolts is either Nylatron NSM or Nylatron GSM...

Now hear are some charts to examine:

First is the wear resistence graph:
http://www.bayplastics.co.uk/Gifs/graphs/Wear-graph.gif


You will see ertacetal c blows away all nylatrons in wear resistence...in fact ertacetal blows everything away except for cestilene which is very hard and very expensive.

Next table shows that ertacetal c is physiologically inert and suitable for food contact...meaning it is very unlikley it will absorb oils. It shows that it is inert...the "black" delrin is omitted from FDA compliance due to the dye used in it however it is still inert.

http://www.bayplastics.co.uk/graphs...-food-chart.htm

Obviously nylon/nylatrons are not inert and not suitable for food contact...hey if it is not suitable for food is it suitable for your gun


Finally the dynamic coefficient of friction graph...
http://www.bayplastics.co.uk/Gifs/g...namic-graph.gif

As you can see nylatron NSM is the lowest with ertacetal c right behind it...what is interesting is all the other nylatrons NS,GSM,MC-901 all have higher friction coeficcients than ertacetal c.

This is why I believe delrin (ertacetal c) is superior to nylatrons. Beter wear resistence, more inert (despite what some may claim), and better friiction properties than all nylatrons except NSM and it is VERY close to NSM in the friction department.

Also as stated before delrin machines better than nylatrons.

Also ertacetal is highyly recommended for precision mechanical parts because:
1)Very high stiffness to temperature ratio
2)has great resilience and excellent creep resistance
3)high impact strength at low temps
4)good dimensional stability

Just my thoughts.

Bigwick your are not the only one who has had this problem. Anyone notice that Bandit has completely dropped any nylatron bolts? Ask them why. I'am surprised Spud is still producing bolts from nylatron when they must know about these issues by now. Strange.

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