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Old 01-21-2003, 08:32 PM #1
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Hello,
I want to know is if I reduce the weight of the carrier will it affect it's ability to compress the striker spring. Does the carrier need this weight in order to function. Has anybody tried anything like this? I want to lighten the recoil and possible reduce the latency time as well as reduce the gas usage.



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Old 01-22-2003, 08:46 AM #2
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I put some serious thought into this, and have come up with the conclusion, that the only thing that would possilby happen is to compress the spring, youd need to increase the pressure on the Ram. Not a big deal...it should work...ive seen some stainless carriers, but never of a metal liter than alum that its made from now
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Old 01-22-2003, 11:59 AM #3
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Hmmmm..

I went to the Clippard site and found the specs for the 1/2" ram.
100psi=19lbs of force. Are there any spring experts out there?
I think that the ram needs to create a min of 14lbs of pressure in order to compress the spring.
To be on the safe side 85psi=16.15lbs.
After looking at the data I'm leaning towards the conclusion that the carrier weight will not affect the cycle function process.
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Old 01-22-2003, 04:28 PM #4
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hers the forumla for spring forces:
F(spring) = (displacement) * (spring constant). each spring will have a different constant. if you can get that, you can tell exactly how much force will be needed.(make sure you use correct units for that constant. ie: if the constant is for meters/seconds/kilograms, dont plug in feet, seconds and pounds).
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Old 01-22-2003, 06:22 PM #5
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...ive seen some stainless carriers, but never of a metal liter than alum that its made from now
i saw a carbon fiber one once.
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Old 01-22-2003, 10:14 PM #6
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Lightned Carrier

I drilled holes in the carrier and it reduced the weight but not as much as I would have liked. Between the derlin bolt and modifed carrier it might do the trick. If not I'll just order a carrier and really do a number on it.
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:15 PM #7
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How about instead of spending time working on ur crappy gun you spend time working a job and get some money and buy a good gun.


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How about insted of spending time flaming my forum you get off your *** and get the hell out?

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Old 01-30-2003, 11:36 PM #9
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How about instead of spending time working on ur crappy gun you spend time working a job and get some money and buy a good gun.
says the man with a m98 & bushy...
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Old 01-31-2003, 09:24 AM #10
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You are saying that a bushy is not a good gun? I must disagree.
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You are saying that a bushy is not a good gun? I must disagree
Sigh.....

I will try to use small words you.

Since you have no idea what a Rainmaker is or how it works, you are obviously ignorant,
Yes, the bushy is a nice gun, but the fact that you put down a Rainmaker tells us that you have no idea how a Bushy works-
This means that you are just another terrible player who has no skill, and is trying to substitute money in its place.

So, if we are wrong, then try and support your position with actual arguments, and actual facts.

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Old 01-31-2003, 02:06 PM #12
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First, I know what a rainmaker is and how it works and second, there was nothing in this discussion that said you were even talking about rainmakers.

I am simply trying to express how I feel it is a waste of time to try and tweak out and upgrade crappy (and ugly as is the rainmaker, oh god, so ugly) guns and that you will be much better off just buying a better gun.
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actually the comment worked in more of a fashion that sait, your gun is crappy, no, your gun is crappy sort of way. he was making fun of you. i see now that you are far too stupid to figure something as rudementary as this out so i guess it had to be spelled out for you. you dont want to start fames here, i will own your puny *** any day of the week. no i suggest you p*ss off before i am forced to make you my prison b*tch.
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Ok--

Lets get back to the issue at hand.

blaaaaaaargh....Dont post here in ANY way to deface hte Rainmaker or other BE markers/equipment. Do so and you will be punished. Consider this your warning
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Old 01-31-2003, 04:37 PM #15
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Kev- I know he's just an uneducated troll.. thats why its fun to point out has lack of abilities and skill.

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I am simply trying to express how I feel it is a waste of time to try and tweak out and upgrade crappy (and ugly as is the rainmaker, oh god, so ugly) guns and that you will be much better off just buying a better gun
Hmmm.. I asked why, and you had no answer. So we have to assume that you have no idea what you are talking about. (especially since you obviously did not know this thread was about a Rainmaker).
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I can't hold that against you. At least the Rainmaker is unique. There is no other gun like it. You can not say that about a Bushy. Its just another generic ram-bolt that is saturating the market. They are a dime a dozen, and are all subject to the same limitations.
But you probobly already know that.....

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There is no other gun like it

i truly disagree with that there is only one other marker like it and that would be the big brother of the rm the vector which has not been prodced since 95. it used vertauly the same design but in corperated a convert mechanical mac.( the mac was a strip down electronic mac that had a pin to pusn rather then an seliniond) but anyway was a mechanical version of the rm. also BrassEagle bought the right to the vector so they could make the rm.

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Old 02-01-2003, 01:26 PM #17
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also BrassEagle bought the right to the vector so they could make the rm.
They also paid the designer of the Vector to design the RM!!
The RM isnt actually an eletro Vector, but an electro-pneumatic Sterling. Nick based both guns on the Sterling action.

I meant that it is the only factory "electro-pumper" ever made!
All other factory electros are either ram-bolts, ram-charge/dump, or simple sear-trippers. Even aftermarket electro-pumpers cascade dual-rams.

In this regard, I think we can all agree the RM is unique.
Plus, after the vector, the RM was the only Sterling-semi made. The Sovs are all generic Sheridan-based ram-bolts.

Is it the most unique factory electro?? That can be debated. Theres plenty of weird vapor-guns out there. It definetly looks unique, but most people find that a bad thing!!

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Is it the most unique factory electro?? That can be debated.
most defiantly
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