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Old 12-10-2002, 08:43 PM #43
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Must be another transaction for "a friend".

Bull****.
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Old 12-10-2002, 08:43 PM #44
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maybe you guys should learn to ask questions Ive never been screwed by vince and in most cases ive even been able to talk him down 10 bucks.
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Old 12-10-2002, 08:51 PM #45
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Selling Angel Air locally to buy that conquest actually, and its not 280.
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Old 12-10-2002, 08:51 PM #46
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Old 12-11-2002, 07:25 AM #47
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you sound like an ignorant pri*k to me grow some balls and either A. send the guy the money so that he can get the gun in working order or B. make a complete refund. I beleive mang has all rights to keeping your rail and on/off, sounds like you gave him a crappy product. i know im not gonna trade with you on anything.
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:37 AM #48
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You change your story too much flyn. I see you are also selling a vengenece cocker. Give the man back his money and tank and you can have back you intimidator. Mang if i were you i would just get the 800 and the tank back and give him back his **** even if you have put some money into fixing it. I know you are still getting screwed out of what it cost you to fix it but it is not worth dealing with this guy. This guy goes threw guns like a hooker threw condoms. Personally if I were buying a gun for that much i would have them ship cod and make sure i can see it before they get there money. Dont have to listen to what i say i am just giving you an outside view.
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Old 12-11-2002, 11:39 AM #49
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With COD you can't open the package until you give the deliveryman the money. So thats not really a solution.
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Old 12-11-2002, 04:15 PM #50
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do what i do, anything I'm buyying over $500 online (not on ebay) I do a third party. normally animal paintball, they check to make sure everything in functioning correctly.
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Old 12-11-2002, 04:23 PM #51
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Well i really can't believe flynbyu05 did this but is aparent that he did send out a gun with problems. I recieved a cocker from him that was in great condition and the deal worked out great.

I agree that he should have had to return the money for this broken gun BUT....

One thing to take into consideration that no one else has.

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I tapped out the body as well as the trigger frame, but cannot find the right length screws to hold the trigger frame on tightly. I needed to purchase a new cup seal for the gun, this whole fiasco has left the board basically shot, the body completely altered (I'm lucky the tap worked), and the trigger frame altered as well.
Why would mang do all this then expect his money back! He should of told flynbyu imediatly and demanded his money back.
How can you expect a full refund after you have modified/fixed the product?

I agree that something should be returned, but as far as a full refund + the fixing costs - NO WAY
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Old 12-11-2002, 04:36 PM #52
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I'm not trying to get a full refund anymore, I'm using this as a heads up for potential buyers.
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Old 12-11-2002, 05:13 PM #53
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Originally posted by CockerManiac
I see you are also selling a vengenece cocker.
beeb beeb, short bus is leaving! its not his gun
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Old 12-11-2002, 06:08 PM #54
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Yes Vengeance Cocker = Dave's from KAPP factory. I am selling it for him cause hes my buddy :-D
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Old 12-12-2002, 08:47 PM #55
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Hey Mang, Burnt Pixel.....

It deeply saddens me to see my old gun like this. This gun was used by Bob, passed down to me, i then sold it to vince because i was quitting the sport.....the gun in my possesion shot...amazing....cant even express it with words the way it shot, but one thing i do know is that the gun is fairly old. The internals or anything had never been re built, a month or so previous to selling it to vince, the ram bumper blew up on me..... i replaced it with a brand new one and was told it was a freak accident.....i never took apart this gun or anything and i dont think vince did either.. but i dont know, i played with that thing every weekend day in and day out, and just lubed it up every other week. I think that its time was coming from not being touched, and it came.. and unluckly it was in your hands Mang, its really too bad. Because honestly i would offer you lots of money for that gun back if it was in the condition i sold it in. So just know that the gun has not been through *****ty owners. I heard that it was stripped just the other day and could not belive it... i thought they were joking. It still confusues me how a gun could go from so damn cherry and stright up bad A$$, to a gun with so many flaws.

Hopefully youll get all this **** straightend out, and that black beaut will come back around..haha. Good luck bro

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Old 12-15-2002, 04:07 PM #56
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Hmm interesting,
I played with vince and some friends at a Local feild about 4-6 weeks ago I would say. He was playing with that same Ripper. No a thing was leaking, it shot fast and smooth. I assume that he sold it about 2 weeks after. Is there a possible way that When MANG took off the frame that the ribbon might have fallen off?
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Old 12-15-2002, 05:35 PM #57
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You read the story, it's 100% true, I wasn't aiming to convince you of my credibility.
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Old 12-25-2002, 08:21 PM #58
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Yeah dude, I dont think im buying anything from you, give him a refund.
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Old 12-28-2002, 08:38 PM #59
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and since i found out me and mang live in the same county i say F|_|CK you Fly****. Give him his stuff
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Old 12-28-2002, 10:30 PM #60
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this is none of anyone's buisness here accept for flynbyu and mang so stop posting your opinions let them talk this out its not a freaking post and bag on someone for screwing up leave this guy alone and let them talk about it your all being stupid and making this worse its not your problem to "deal with" unless its your own money or gun just keep this in mind for further trades you make thats it
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:06 PM #61
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and fuc**** A he has some good feedback so one mess up is fine other people leave him alone
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:21 PM #62
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Alright to all the non-readers. Mang does not want a refund anymore, he wants to alert people about flynbyu01 being the second worst trader on the internet, me being the worst. So stop saying crap like oh give him his stuff back or give him a refund. I have experienced nothing but expertise from Vince, so from my perspective I am siding with him on this one, but its nothing against Mang or anyone affiliated with Mang, its just I have a past with Vince. Lastly, look at Timebomb, he sells stuff that isnt his for friends, look at me, I sell stuff that isnt mine for friends, is it that hard to believe that one more person on the internet could be possibly selling gear for his friends, I know its a hard concept but think about it.
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:36 PM #63
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<< this is none of anyone's buisness here accept for flynbyu and mang >>

If this wasn't anyones business then Sean wouldn't have posted anything in the first place.

<< so stop posting your opinions let them talk this out its not a freaking post and bag on someone for screwing up leave this guy alone and let them talk about it your all being stupid and making this worse its not your problem to "deal with" unless its your own money or gun just keep this in mind for further trades you make thats it >>

Direct from the horses mouth:
"Please exhibit caution when dealing with him, this is the last thing I would expect from such a reputable trader"

That's the pure reason behind Sean's post. We don't need kids like you storming through this thread trying to restore order. The thread was created to warn potential buyers from not only Vince but any other user to use discretion before purchasing/trading, and find out as much information regarding their purchase as possible. It's also a good example of how a great trader can still make mistakes. So you ought to mind your own business instead of directing everyone else around.
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