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Old 01-19-2004, 01:22 AM #1
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READ before posting.... Shocker FAQ .... READ!!!

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Old 10-20-2004, 09:40 PM #2
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How to change Dwell on Shocker

To adjust your Shocker's dwell, recharge rate, and rebound settings, you must first remove the left side of the grip panels so that you can have access to the lower, vertical circuit board. You will see two grey buttons located on the side of the board; these are the dwell buttons and are used to adjust all three settings. The top button will increase the setting wheras the bottom one will decrease it, denoted by the text UP and DN printed on the front of the circuitry.



Dwell:
To adjust the dwell setting, simple push either the dwell DN or UP button to decrease or increase the setting respectively. Don't hold the trigger down while doing this or else the dwell won't be adjusted. Dwell is adjustable between 3 and 14 milliseconds, in 0.25 millisecond increments. This means your dwell increases one millisecond for every four chirps. You then add your number to the base amount of three to get your dwell in milliseconds. You will find that increases in dwell will generally increase velocity, just as increasing operating pressure will as well. Because of this, if you decrease the operating pressure, you can compensate by decreasing dwell time, and vice-versa. However, like some other markers, your dwell amount should be set before you adjust your operating pressure. In other words, unless you're experiancing a problem, you are advised to leave your dwell settings alone. Also know that [in most cases] too low of an operating pressure or dwell will cause inefficiencies, and too high of an operating pressure or dwell will cause inconsistencies. These statements are derived from the natural tendancies from the gas and varied limitations imposed by the electronics; in some cases they can be circumvented however not with the stock firing assembly (LPR, bolt design, solenoid, etc).
Although the stock dwell setting is 20 chirps, I personally recommend increasing it to somewhere between 25-30 with the stock aluminum bolt. For those with the 2003 delrin bolt, a setting between 20-25 is optimal. If you're using a sealed fire chamber bolt kit (NDZ Stinger v2 and v3, Evolve v1 and v2, SP Turbocharger, Freeflo2 v2 and v3), then a high dwell of 30 chirps at the bare minimum is required. Most Shockers will experiance best results with their lowest setting within this range (that is, if you don't experiance any barrel breaks or FSDO). However, if you do experiance any of these symptoms, you can try to increase the dwell one or two chirps until it goes away, or until you reach 35. If you go that high, chances are increasing it further won't make a difference, and you'll either have to live with the problem or purchase an aftermarket bolt kit. Never set your dwell below 12 chirps as the solenoid is not designed to cycle at this rate.


I just thought this might help some people because I see a lot of threads about how to change dwell. Hope this helps.

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Exclamation Shocker Ultimate Sticky

SHOCKER SFT/NXT ULTIMATE STICKY

General information:
Shocker NXT FAQ and comparison thread
Official Shocker Vs. (any other gun) thread
Shocker vs. (any other gun) thread
03 04 05 06 07 what are the differences?
Shocker body barrel threading (stock, PL, etc)

Community information:
Shocker IM Help List
Shocker Appraisals thread
Post your shocker settings thread
Dynasty board settings thread
Official Shocker SFT Picture Thread
Official Shocker NXT Picture Thread
Shocker Videos thread
Official Shocker Action Picture Thead

Upgrades, parts, and how-to's:
Board installation thread
Shocker/Nerve board listing thread
The "how to lube" thread
The "how to lube" for the HE bolt
Lube info thread
Anodizing disassembly guide
Bolt identification pictures thread
Cold Weather Shocker Tips
NXT eye troubleshooting info

Mods:
Adding a spring to the bolt assembly
Ultimate Shocker Mods thread
(There've been other modss in the past, PM me if you have a link).

General FAQ and information can always be found on zdspb.com. Check there for technical info and other information if you can't find it above. Listed here is an additional FAQ thread for the most very common questions on this forum (compiled by Bush'em, UnknownPsycho, Ydna, and others; edited by Ydna).

Shocker manual: http://www.smartparts.com/Manuals/Shocker.pdf Read; learn.

Shocker resources: http://www.zdspb.com/tech

Shocker SFT, Shocker NXT, Shocker 03, etc: To date, all Shockers produced after the Shocker Sport (brick Shocker, shoebox Shocker, etc) are Shocker SFT markers. In late 2006 SP redesigned and released the Shocker NXT, which functions the same with new support features.

What's the difference between 03, 04, 05, etc etc etc? In short, not much. Check this thread http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1992705

Why not buy an Ion? Shockers are NOT just expensive Ions. If you have to ask which one to get, you're probably better off with the Ion. If you’re absolutely sure you’re ready to make the jump into the tournament scene, go ahead and save yourself some money in the long run and get the Shocker.

Which private label Shocker?!? Please feel free to form your own opinions. The differences between the different PL Shockers are apparent from the outside; internally they are typically the exact same gun. Looks are the main differences here, nothing more. Check ZDSPB.com for comparisons and such.

HPA tank...HP or LP output? The answer is either will work. LP tanks are popular but HP will also work just fine.

Electronics:

Vision system: All Shocker SFT markers are premilled for Vision eyes. Vision eyes weren't always standard parts, however in 2006 they were made standard and all Shockers bought new as of then has eyes equipped from the factory.
Shocker NXT uses reflective eyes which aren't compatible with the Shocker SFT markers. However, Shocker SFT reflective eyes are compatible with Shocker NXT bodies and boards.

Boards: All Shockers as of about mid-2004 come with the "Nerve" board, which is a stock board programmed with an expanded dwell setting, boot up in Vision mode, and includes four rebound ramping modes in addition to semiauto. Shocker NXT boards are also programmed with different eye modes corresponding to the eyes used in the gun.

If you're looking at picking up an aftermarket board, generally one is just as good [and fast] as any other. Just look at the different firing modes and general features for each board and pick the one you like best. ZDSPB.com has a comparison feature for all the boards available.

Settings:
First, set your dwell. On the stock bolt kit with the Parker solenoid it should be 25-30 chirps or possibly more, if you have the Humphrey solenoid in the 40’s to 50's. Don’t know which one you have? Click [urll=http://www.zdspb.com/media/skr03/solenoid_solenoidmodels.jpg]here[/url].
Refer to the manual on how to adjust the dwell. If you have a gauge set your pressure on your regulator to ~190 psi. If you don’t, after setting your dwell set your reg to 0 and slowly bring it up until you’re at the velocity you want. This should put you around the right pressure. During this process make adjustments with the dwell, not your regulator. Your reg input pressure should never exceed 200 psi. After dwell is set, use the input pressure to control your velocity, do not use dwell to control velocity.

The stock board's recharge setting should always be set to the bottom (0) unless you purposefully wish to cap your gun’s rate of fire.

Shootdown / FSDO: The most common cure for shootdown is to raise your dwell (and in turn lower your pressure). FSDO can be cause by a few different things. The bolt kit needs just a light layer of lube to function properly. Too much or too little can cause FSDO, bolt stick, and shootdown. Also make sure your battery is good.

Internals; Pneumatics:

My Shocker sucks! / Why is it leaking? If it's broken or leaking, it's likely you damaged something during reassembly, or otherwise error. When posting, tell us exactly what you did (no matter how stupid it makes you look) so that we can actually find a solution to your problem. If it's basic maintenance then look in your manual or in this sticky thread here for help. Believe me- it's already been covered![/color]

Bolts: Shocker NXT markers come stock with the HE bolt from Smart Parts. Aftermarket things are available however the performance difference/addition is slim on most of them.
Shocker SFT markers came with the old "stock" bolt which was not high efficiency. For these bolts, upgrading is suggested for better efficiency. There are/were many aftermarket parts available which will all perform virtually the same. In terms of the raw performance, nothing is ever guaranteed when it comes to a paintball marker, just because somebody says they get a million shots per tank doesn't mean the bolt is golden and will work the same for you.

Upgrades:Good upgrades to start with would be a HE bolt kit, new trigger, NDZ detents, and a clamping feedneck. If you feel the need, you can upgrade your board.

Unless you’re having problems with the stock regs you really don’t need to upgrade it. If you insist then some good alternatives would be an Evolve Pi, AKALMP 2 Liter or Sidewinder, Macdev Gladiator, CP reg, Palmer Stab, CP reg, etc. Shocker NXTs come with an upgraded regulator which is faster than all those regulators listed except for the AKA and Evolve ones.

For many the stock All American barrel shoots fine. Some barrel options include the SP Freak kit, Stiffi, Redz Pepper Stick, Dye Ultralight, and CP barrels.

When you have a problem, be sure you can fully describe it, and don't forget to list your setup and settings. Remember to read through the Ultimate Sticky and run a search before you start a new thread. If you need immediate help, mention that in your thread title and wait patiently. We don’t live online, so give your thread a few hours AT A MINIMUM before you bump it. If you can’t wait, make sure you can describe exactly what your gun is doing and call Smart Parts Technical Support- 1.800.992.2147, Mon-Fri 10am-6pm.

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Official NXT Shocker Review thread:

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O-ring diagrams:

Shocker SFT stock bolt, old
stock bolt, current
Shocker HE bolt, old
Shocker HE bolt, current
NDZ v3 bolts, Evolve ULP
Evolve bolts (v2 pictured)
Freeflow bolts (v1 pictured)
Shocker solenoid manifold, solenoid inserts, vertical adapter, SFT o-ring

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Mother of All Shocker Board Reference Manuals: (microsoft excel spreadsheet)
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Original thread: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=80016719
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