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Alien
685 Placerville Drive
Placerville, CA 95667

Phone: (530) 344-1155
Email: jack@alienpb.com
Website: http://alienpb.com
New gun from Alien, $799 for a standard, or $899 for a premier Independence, complete with 2 frames and a hyperdrive board.
 Manual: Download the manual for Alien Download
 Release Date: 2008
 MSRP: $799.00
 Average Rating:
  • Currently 4.6/5 stars.
 Reviews: 27
 Rating Summary:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
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  • Currently 4/5 stars.
  22%
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
  4%
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
  7%
  • Currently 1/5 stars.
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Alien - Independence Reviews
Alien Independence I have the 2011 Alien Independence and its an amazing marker. For the pros its light but not as light as say your NTs or a new planet eclipse (except the Etek). Its very smooth for a poppet, you just...
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disturbed989
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southern California
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $520.00
Pros: efficient and smooth
Cons: a bit heavier than some guns.
I have the 2011 Alien Independence and its an amazing marker. For the pros its light but not as light as say your NTs or a new planet eclipse (except the Etek). Its very smooth for a poppet, you just have to get your LP and Dwell set right. Its very accurate ball on ball every time. The most accurate poppet ive shot yet. Its very comfortable. With my ninja tank on it, it feels like it should be there with me. Very easy to set with the tadao board in it. Very air efficient just as good as any other poppet out there. Its quiet but not like a spool valve. Its also very easy to take apart and do your maintenance and cleaning. The sweep bolt is cool but weather it works the way say it does i dont really have a clue.
The Cons for this marker is the stock barrel is a one piece 14" thats a little tight on paint. I suggest a different barrel. The other is that you have to buy the 4c eyes separate. You also really cant find parts for it, so if something does go wrong, highly doubtful its a well built marker, you have to send it in to Jack himself or his techs to get it fixed.
But if u love poppets and a smooth marker the alien is it. Its the happy medium between poppets and spool valves.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Alien Independence Best marker I've ever owned, really sorry that I had to let it go. If you've got the chance to pick one up, do it.
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offlimitspballa
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Shreveport
offlimitspballa has been a member for 10 years
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $700.00
Pros: Everything
Cons: I can't marry it
Best marker I've ever owned, really sorry that I had to let it go. If you've got the chance to pick one up, do it.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Alien Independence I got my hands on an 09 indy pretty quick after they came out, it was a rough breakm in period on account of i had the wrong lpr orings, once that got figured out the gun turned into a murder...
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TimTaylor
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Dos Cinco Tres
TimTaylor owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
TimTaylor has achieved Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $550.00
Pros: light, small, fast, quiet
Cons: hard to get parts from anywhere except jack
I got my hands on an 09 indy pretty quick after they came out, it was a rough breakm in period on account of i had the wrong lpr orings, once that got figured out the gun turned into a murder machine, just add opponents, its a wonderful gun for the money
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Alien Independence This marker reminds me alot of the ego. It definitely has poppit feel and sound. i did find it reliable and efficient. i didnt really know to much about there customer support
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crazeemanny
So Fresh and So Clean
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Whittier, So*Cal
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 2.3/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Price paid: $600.00
Pros: efficient
Cons: not fond of trigger
This marker reminds me alot of the ego. It definitely has poppit feel and sound. i did find it reliable and efficient. i didnt really know to much about there customer support
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 1/5 stars.
Alien Independence Not reliable, goes down a lot. Nobody shoots them and alien does't tech at events.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 2/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 1/5 stars.
Price paid: $400.00
Pros: shoots
Cons: breaks
Not reliable, goes down a lot. Nobody shoots them and alien does't tech at events.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 1/5 stars.
Alien Independence i was so amazed at how comfortable the marker is to hold in the hands and how well balanced the gun is. it is very quite for a poppit valve marker and the efficency is quite good.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West Jordan, Utah
-Smurf- donated to help Peyton Trent
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Length of use: More than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $975.00
Pros: very light gun
Cons: none as of yet.
i was so amazed at how comfortable the marker is to hold in the hands and how well balanced the gun is. it is very quite for a poppit valve marker and the efficency is quite good.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Alien Independence Love this gun and company! Just got sponsored by them!
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $800.00
Pros: shoots great!
Cons: there are none
Love this gun and company! Just got sponsored by them!
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Alien Independence As I have use this product each and everyday, I grew to love this marker. It seems the ALIEN INDEPENDENCE has a leap of improvement and great engineering has put on this marker. The marker does not...
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EgoBaller1990
 
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
EgoBaller1990 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $650.00
Pros: shoots well and good air efficiency
Cons: price
As I have use this product each and everyday, I grew to love this marker. It seems the ALIEN INDEPENDENCE has a leap of improvement and great engineering has put on this marker. The marker does not give its full credit how great it performs. Maybe this is due to lack of commercial.

The body is very sleek looking, with a spike on the end of the bolt, similar to my traded ego 07, with a slightly bigger ram housing because it is detachable. It can be better on out side machining also.

- The ram is detachable for ease of maintenance.
- Comparing to any other guns, this has the biggest air inlet to the Solenoid, than any marker I have seen, which even to ego 09 striving as hard to make the flow of air to solenoid as much, with no contest by far alien has the most.
- The regulator is same stack shims as the cp reg. I weigh the reg. it is light and also very consistent. Need a little break in, approximately 50 balls only- as I have experience on my marker.
- The bolt is made out of delrin, and a black rubber blocks more than half part where the air exhaust. theorizing that ball will spin backwards for a flatter shot, shooting from the bottom. This is mostly what alien commercializes. I use to play table tennis, its true a back spins gives the ball a straighter ball. I have yet to test this on my alien.
- Also the bolt rubber prevents the paintball from rolling backwards, same as the cure bolts. I have first seen this long time ago from deadlywind that had made the bolts for the ions preventing it to move backwards to avoid stack chopping paintballs.
- The marker is very accurate, the fact that I would eliminate the whole entire walk ons with my 50 paintball hopper.
- The signature sound of the marker is quieter than any ego I have used, similar sound signature to a vice.
- The trigger, I am not fan of a critical trigger, but this trigger is amazing. I promised you that you will love this trigger better than the A1 fly or my 09 ego I have both.
- The detents have it advantages and disadvantage. Detents would be replace faster that the normal round detents. The alien detents have two spikes from each side. The advantage I can see is that, it is more reball friendly than rounds detents. You just have to replace it a lot more.
- Eyes, it works perfect, same as any high end markers, I still have to break a ball in it. NO Breaks so far.
- Speed, it can cycle as faster than any finger pull out there..
- Chrono - When airing the marker as manual stated to push the bolt forward to prevent spikes, which may damage solenoid. This needs to be done to have space for air to move in.
- When first airing the marker, I found that it tends to spike, but after 10 shot, it will stabilize it self. So when you first come in to chrono, make sure you shoot ten shots and then chrono.
- chrono register 275 274 276 275 273, 275 depending also how good is your paintballs is. I was using a in house crap paintballs when this registered, still good.
- I have the stock frame that came in when you buy the cheapest package, it nice to hold, but it could be much better. Comparing with ego 09 frame again, ego has it by far better ergonomics. However, I found that they are making the back of the marker frame rounder for alien 09. This is good news. Hopefully, they make it like UL frame, which is the best of all time.
- You got to know, the alien frame is still much better to hold than my karni, shocker, etek and others.
- The shooting controls are user friendly, so even for dummies can be easily fine tuned. turn on, hold to turn off, green there is ball registered, red no ball on barrel. psp, ramp, semi, uncapped. pressonce button, turn off eyes. only one button outside the frame.
- Weight, very light marker. About 2 ounces heavier than ego 09, put a cp shorty and they will wiegh the same. Put a stiffi barrel and it will weigh less.
- Efficiency, I was hoping it will be same efficient on air as vice or aka, but who am I kidding. Efficiency is about same efficient as any ego. About 1700+ full 68/4500 after break in.
- I have seen no drop shots.
- KICK.. kicks are...
Alien = Ego 09,
Alien > A1 fly
Alien > droid, dms, spooly
Alien = Vice, Alien = Cyborg.
> means greater kick.
= means equal, same
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Alien Independence not the smoothest marker, but by far the most accurate i have ever shot.
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FallenHero_08
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Stationed at Ft Bliss
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $650.00
Pros: everything
Cons: few sharp edges
not the smoothest marker, but by far the most accurate i have ever shot.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Alien Independence I've wanted to get my hands on an Alien since I first saw the interceptor in 2005. It ok me 8 years to finally get one and it's the 08 Indy. I've owned a lot of guns and up untill I got the Indy my...
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Forrestball
 
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cadillac
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.8/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $230.00
Pros: Ultra Sexy milling, Trigger, low profile feedneck
Cons: Wish the 08 had the same improvements of the 09
I've wanted to get my hands on an Alien since I first saw the interceptor in 2005. It ok me 8 years to finally get one and it's the 08 Indy. I've owned a lot of guns and up untill I got the Indy my fully up'd etek2 was my favorite poppet and compared to the Indy the etek sux, it's louder, has more kick and doesn't feel as good in the hands. I've also shot 2 09 vego's and they didn't seem that much better than my etek. But I love P.E. I'm not bashing them I'm juat saying that Aliens are super underrated and just as good if not better than any ego, the bolt is one of the most innovative in poppet guns, forget the argument of wether or not the sweep system works like it does. At least it's not just another open faced bolt like the ones that's been in poppets since their existance. Also the came with the option to put a 85 frame on and a 4 piece barrel kit with carbon fiber tip. M
All the 09 indys I've seen have all had just one piece barrels stock.
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  • Currently 0/5 stars.
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