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Indian Creek Design, Inc. - ProMaster Information
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Indian Creek Design, Inc.
1019 First Street North
Nampa, ID 83687

Phone: (208) 468-0446
Fax: (208) 468-6650
Email: info@icdpaintball.com
Website: http://www.icdpaintball.com
The ProMaster is a high quality marker specially designed to meet the needs of the professional style tournament player. The ProMaster is an electronic solenoid actuated computer controlled marker.
 Manual: Download the manual for Indian Creek Design, Inc. Download
 Release Date: 2005
 MSRP: $390.00
 Average Rating:
  • Currently 4.3/5 stars.
 Reviews: 44
 Rating Summary:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
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  • Currently 4/5 stars.
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  • Currently 3/5 stars.
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Indian Creek Design, Inc. - ProMaster Reviews
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster I had purchased a promaster over 2 years ago when they first came out. At close to $400 it was a big spend for me, a guy who typically just played recreationally. Hitting the field with my brand new...
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bobide
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Join Date: Sep 2004
bobide has been a member for 10 years
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bobide plays in the APPA D5 division
Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.8/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $390.00
Pros: Fast and light it easily keeps up with any gun
Cons: Not the most beginer friendly gun
I had purchased a promaster over 2 years ago when they first came out. At close to $400 it was a big spend for me, a guy who typically just played recreationally. Hitting the field with my brand new gun I was pretty impressed. Stock efficiency was nice off a 68/4500 gitting me 1300 shots before the tank needed a refill before it went under 1000psi left. Also the kick of the gun is very slight, and gives a nice smooth cycle. Just one balling I would be dead on and a quick string would give slight barrel rise of an inch or so. I did notice that the range of the gun was not very good. Purchasing a new barrel (macdev matchstick 14") I was much happier with the flight path of the ball, though the change was slight.

Over the course of time owning this gun for 2+ years I have used it exclusively as my main gun (as I did not plan on buying another) in all types of paintball from just open play on a weekend, scrimmaging against some teams, or serious tournament play in both NXL lite and other formats. Beyond a barrel and feedneck there isn't much that really needs fixing on this gun. Now lots of people suggest immediately replacing that ICD hpr, I've had a great experience with mine and can conclude that they're a hit-or-miss type of thing. So at least give yours a chance.

I've extensively upgraded my promaster not out of necessity but for a desire to take it's abilities further. A new valve, lpr, board and ram have made their way onto my gun. The increased efficiency, lower kick, silky smoother cycle and plenty of settings and firing modes sure are nice for people who crave the best or like to tinker and upgrade. If you're the type who likes to mod their guns themselves the promaster has plenty you can do too.

As far as reliability goes I've only had this gun go down on my a few times, mostly due to me screwing something up with a setting and not realizing what was wrong or what to fix. The biggest problem I've seen people have with these guns is not setting them up right. This is because players just assume things and not take the time to really learn their gun! If you are having issues with this gun 9 times out of ten you just need to rebalance your regulators properly! It's simple, with regs at 0psi set hpr to 220psi and then raise the lpr till the bolt cocks back and then an additional quarter turn.

tl;dr with these guns going for under $200 highly upgraded it's a great investment. With a higher quality feel then ions or other competing guns at this price point it's a real steal. It's a fast good gun but is not for someone who is afraid to learn a little about the gun or isn't a very good tinkerer. You will not be disappointed with what this gun can do and won't have to be afraid about stepping out onto a xball field or any other tournament.
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  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster bought two of these guns used and they both worked good for a while untill one had a major leak down the barrel and i still to this day dont know how to fix it. the manual says its a cup seal but i...
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: new kingston NEW YORK
Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 3.3/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Price paid: $400.00
Pros: light fast
Cons: crazy internals
bought two of these guns used and they both worked good for a while untill one had a major leak down the barrel and i still to this day dont know how to fix it. the manual says its a cup seal but i have tryed every method i know of to get the pin out and i lifted my work bench before it popped out. i had a problem with the selunoid but i was able to fix that no problem...just do not over tighten the barbs or they breack really easily and are a pain to get when you dont have extras on hand because they are a curcial part and you have to wait for them to ship to your house! but other than that they are great guns i used them as a primary for a while untill i joined a team and bought a 05 ego....now they are backups but im not disapointed if my ego goes down and i have to use one of the promasters because they are a very good accurate and light gun..

its also a pain to remove the grip frame due to so many screws that are placed in difficult places to get allen wrenches in!!
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster This was my first tournament when i first started getting into tourney style play 3 years ago. ive had this thing since it first came out and its still THE most reliable marker i have ( and ive had...
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azndragon2222
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Northern VA
azndragon2222 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
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Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.8/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $350.00
Pros: Fast, Reliable, and now...dirt cheap new!
Cons: Bouncy, no debounce features, no standard ASA
This was my first tournament when i first started getting into tourney style play 3 years ago. ive had this thing since it first came out and its still THE most reliable marker i have ( and ive had quite a few markers...). anyway, this gun is fast...and i mean FAST. able to keep up with most other high ends out there. milling is nice...not much has really changed in 3 years. the Promaster can also take quite a lot of abuse. ive dropped, thrown it, soaked it (diving into puddles)...and it still works! not much maintainence need, but the internals get dirty quite easily. some of its stock parts arent exactly the best...namely the reg and feedneck. the barrel isnt actually all that bad when i used it the first time out...though in my personal preference, i dont like short barrels. the trigger is probably one of the best stock triggers of any gun its class. its definetly not an Ego...but for the price its going for now..its a STEAL. one warning for those goin to major tournaments with this gun...this thing is VERY bouncy (at least the way i setup my trigger) and not having debounce feature is a let down.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster Appearance: Nice styling. Sleek design. Not the smallest, not the biggest. Performance: Stock HPR needs to be upgraded in order for the marker to be consistent and thus accurate. LPR can be...
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joejoebob
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: FL
joejoebob is a Supporting Member
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $130.00
Pros: lightweight, high quality, fast for price
Cons: stock regulator, stock feedneck, clamshell design
Appearance:

Nice styling. Sleek design. Not the smallest, not the biggest.

Performance:

Stock HPR needs to be upgraded in order for the marker to be consistent and thus accurate. LPR can be upgraded for a miniscule difference increase in consistency. Stock Barrel is nor too heavy or of poor quality, but like other stock barrels, it has a fairly large bore. I recommend the upgrade to a carbon fiber kit. The can be tuned for either better consistency or better efficiency stock. The more consistent tuning creates some kick, but not as much as other markers available in the $120-$170 price range currently. The marker is very fast and will fire at almost 19bps stock. Though the stock board's eye logic requires a very consistent hopper to fire at that speed. The stock board has a few ramping modes (including PSP 3-shot and PSP ramp), but no fully automatic mode (sorry noobs). The stock feedneck needs to be replaced immediately with a clamping style. The valve should be replaced with a higher-flow version at the users preference, and is a key but non-vital upgrade. The trigger is 4-way adjustable, though it has side-to-side slop, which annoyed me. Most stock triggers have this though, and I decided to upgrade to a roller bearing trigger.

Reliability:

The marker is very reliable seeming one does not take it apart. Once a user does take it apart for the first time, he or she will most likely cause a problem. Most ProMaster users learn the most about their marker when they encounter a problem with it. A user must be educated and know how to tune his or her marker for the first time, as well as know how to tune it according to his or hers upgrades.

Value:

Best value ever. With ICD going out of business, surplus ProMasters are at a great price.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.8/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster I have two of these and for the money they are very very nice markers. The milling and anno is top notch, they work well, and there are aftermarket parts for them as well. Mine has a killa board,...
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chicago
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Length of use: More than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.3/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $149.00
Pros: Fast, stable, reliable and durable
Cons: stock barrel/no asa new
I have two of these and for the money they are very very nice markers. The milling and anno is top notch, they work well, and there are aftermarket parts for them as well.

Mine has a killa board, valve, upgraded grips and upgraded barrel.

Very little kick, smooth, consistant.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.5/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster This gun was my first electro. It was a good first electro. performance: the stock performance was good. Once I put a new CP reg and a Dye UL barrel it shot great. This gun hardly ever chopped....
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Latrobe, PA
Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: light wight, reliablitity
Cons: bad stock reg
This gun was my first electro. It was a good first electro.

performance: the stock performance was good. Once I put a new CP reg and a Dye UL barrel it shot great.

This gun hardly ever chopped. With good paint the gun would never chop.

When I finally got my CP reg broken in I was getting +-5 on the chrono, which is pretty good.

The accuracy was great with the Dye UL. It was just about as accurate as my Ego.

When tuned right the gun had very little kick.

The efficiency of the gun is ok. Expect to get 1200-1300 shots off of a 68/4500 on the stock Promaster.

With the Stiffi tip on the UL it was also pretty quite.

The speed of the gun was decent. It kept up with the limit of 15bps which is all I need.

This gun is very balanced and light weight. It is even lighter than my friend's NXT Shocker.

This gun is very reliable if you understand the gun. If you don't it will be a hard gun to work with. Now having the gun for a while I fully understand it, and it is extremely reliable.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.5/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster I absolutely love this gun. It is very light, is extremely quiet, and has some nice looks too. It has a couple of nice firing modes stock, even though I only ever use the semi-auto mode. It can be...
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Finland(use a world map)
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $100.00
Pros: Ultra fast, light, quiet, and dirt cheap.
Cons: Harder to disassemble.
I absolutely love this gun. It is very light, is extremely quiet, and has some nice looks too. It has a couple of nice firing modes stock, even though I only ever use the semi-auto mode.

It can be harder to disassemble, say if you are coming from a spyder or piranha type gun. Make sure to read/watch the tear down instructions first, or you might break something.

Once you have taken one apart, it is very simple to maintain.

Excellent bang for the buck, I cant think of anything that compares for the price and performance.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.5/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster I owned a Promaster for about 8 months. It was one of my favorite guns I've shot. With a few upgrades it will shoot as good as nearly any other mid range gun. The only problem I had with mine was...
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Codymm1014
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cactus
Length of use: More than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 3.8/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Price paid: $150.00
Pros: Fast, Little Kick, Efficient, Fairly Light weight
Cons: Reliability, Maintenance
I owned a Promaster for about 8 months. It was one of my favorite guns I've shot. With a few upgrades it will shoot as good as nearly any other mid range gun. The only problem I had with mine was that the hoses were a pain, and its time consuming to take apart.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.4/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster This is a great marker for a backup or main. It can be used for any type of player is very easy to use/maintain. This marker is great stock but can be up'd to become a truely amazing marker. This...
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fishballer06
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: PA
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.8/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $140.00
Pros: Very reliable, fast, accurate, consistant
Cons: None really
This is a great marker for a backup or main. It can be used for any type of player is very easy to use/maintain. This marker is great stock but can be up'd to become a truely amazing marker. This marker will hang with the best of them out there and truely cannot be beaten for the price. Easily outperforms all other markers in the same price range. The trigger is 3 way adjustable and can be set to any setting you prefer. The board has 8 different modes that are controlled with a dip switch for easy and quick mode changing. I have yet to have any problems with my marker and as long as you can properly maintain this marker, it should give you no problems at all. I highly suggest this marker to anyone
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.4/5 stars.
Indian Creek Design, Inc. ProMaster I got my promaster in a trade for my old ion back up, and when i get it and shoot it for the first time the first thing i think is "Holy crap this thing shoots nice". Then i went home after playing...
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: kansas
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.3/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Price paid: $190.00
Pros: awesome backup
Cons: a tiny bit heavy
I got my promaster in a trade for my old ion back up, and when i get it and shoot it for the first time the first thing i think is "Holy crap this thing shoots nice".

Then i went home after playing to do maintence and my lord it took me less then 10 minutes my first time.

Overall this is a great gun but if your weak, it may be a tiny bit heavy for you.

9/10!!
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 3.3/5 stars.
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