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Worr Game Products (WGP) - Black Magic SF Information
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Worr Game Products (WGP)
5818 El Camino Real
Carlsbad, CA 92008

Phone: (800) 755-5061
Fax: (760) 579-5901
Email: info@jtusa.com
Website: http://www.worr.com
Black Magic SF
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 Release Date: 2005
 MSRP: $700.00
 Average Rating:
  • Currently 4.4/5 stars.
 Reviews: 11
 Rating Summary:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
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  • Currently 4/5 stars.
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Worr Game Products (WGP) - Black Magic SF Reviews
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF hey, So i picked up a Black Magic made by WGP. A 2006'er. Mine was pre-upgraded with an authentic Eclipse Blade 2 Frame (e2) and board. Eclipse QEV's Angel Reg. (teeny tiny, unbelievable flo rate...
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Tampa_USF2009
Mini Cooper S
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Elmira NY
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $275.00
Pros: Everything. Light. Fast. No kick. everything!
Cons: Needs some upgrades i guess....read review
hey,

So i picked up a Black Magic made by WGP. A 2006'er.

Mine was pre-upgraded with an authentic Eclipse Blade 2 Frame (e2) and board.
Eclipse QEV's
Angel Reg. (teeny tiny, unbelievable flo rate for size....crazy consistant)
Hybrid On/off
Hybrid Q-Lock Feedneck
Deadlywind Whisper Fibur Barrel
......thats it i think.


The Marker was simply outstanding. Crazy efficient. Extremely light.
got around 1500 shots off a 70/4500 (once i tuned it to perfect)

all in all for $275+50 (deadlywind was 50 xtra) i got an incredibly marker.
$275!!!!. You get shimmy shockers and pm5's for that price (and pmrs).

Who ever thought cockers were dead. was 'dead wrong'.
This was pretty much a Karnivor, lighten'd, E2'd, and halfblocked. (My setup was pretty much a Jeff Orr Sig Cocker.....for $275!!!!!!!)
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF I love the looks of this marker ~ for a stock body it's probably my second favorite behind the Karnivor. I bought my 05 BM at the price drop during the summer of 07 for $225 ~ a steal for a BNIB 05...
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MurderFX
 
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Length of use: More than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $225.00
Pros: midblocked stock cocker
Cons: Select Fire Frame
I love the looks of this marker ~ for a stock body it's probably my second favorite behind the Karnivor. I bought my 05 BM at the price drop during the summer of 07 for $225 ~ a steal for a BNIB 05 BM. I knew I'd eventually get rid of the SF frame on it but tried to play with the SF frame on it several times ~ with zero luck...

The SF frame has no timing options and the marker just needed to be timed stock. After a few times trying to get it to shoot ~ I finally found another cocker with E1 board to make the swap. Since the E1 swap the BM has been wonderful. I really wish WGP would have put an Eclipse frame on the marker and not the horrid SF frame but oh well ~ I got what I love now.

Stock the perfomance was not great with the SF frame, hence the 3/5 stars. Reliablity stock also wasn't great as if you didn't have fresh batteries in it the marker would eat paint, more like chew it up and puke it out.

I still found the value to be excellent when the prices dropped massively middle to late last year.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF I loved it until newer guns that were 1000% easier to work on
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 3.5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: Fun and interesting
Cons: Technical sometimes to work on
I loved it until newer guns that were 1000% easier to work on
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 2.3/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF It is great, i had mine egripped and mq'd, amazing cocker for the price.
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Pirate Mafia
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sussex County
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: Fast(egripped), accurate as hell, not bad on air
Cons: A lil kick
It is great, i had mine egripped and mq'd, amazing cocker for the price.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 1.5/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF Probably my favorite autococker out there. Great gun, if you can find one, id definitely recommend buying it!
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venom357
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: ****gers
venom357 owns a Planet Eclipse CSL
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4.3/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Price paid: $400.00
Pros: Great classic gun.
Cons: A bit technical to work on
Probably my favorite autococker out there. Great gun, if you can find one, id definitely recommend buying it!
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 1/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF I purchased a Team Ultimate BM. It had a MP4 ram, Palmer's Mini Rock, Karnivore regulator, and Predator Flashed Select Fire board. The board was tunable, so that was a plus. The market received a...
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: see below
Cons: see below
I purchased a Team Ultimate BM. It had a MP4 ram, Palmer's Mini Rock, Karnivore regulator, and Predator Flashed Select Fire board.

The board was tunable, so that was a plus. The market received a lot of looks. I eventually installed a MQ2 valve and loved it even more. It was a great marker.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF Appearance – I personally love black guns, it took everything in me to not fall in love with this gun when I first saw it. The flames add the perfect touch to this gun, I honestly think if they had...
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GrimCocker
 
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: Appearance, accuracy, reliability, and performance
Cons: Feedneck, on/off
Appearance – I personally love black guns, it took everything in me to not fall in love with this gun when I first saw it. The flames add the perfect touch to this gun, I honestly think if they had tried to do more with it or add colors to it, it could have been too much. After one round with it, I was ready to profess my love for the most bad-*** autococker design ever (my opinion).

Performance – Though I had never owned an electronic gun before, I had tested out my friend’s guns and was a little skeptical due to the many problems I had seen them run into. I was used to full-pull traditional trigger autocockers, so when the guy told me that it took about 4 shots to start ramping (which is a little more than most like) I was happy with that. The way I see it is, I am used to full-pull so not much would change as my normal play was concerned, but if I had to sling a lot of paint I had the ramping capabilities to put some suppressive fire down. Having that control was a beautiful thing.

Reliability - I was impressed that with this gun, being completely stock, it could hang with the all-out ramping without chopping balls or sputtering out (of course a lot of which depends on the loader). The only problems I ran into was with the on/off for some reason I had trouble with turning the knob all the way tight, it had to be in one certain place for the gun to get air. No one else I have talked to has had this problem so I consider it an isolated incident. Also, the feedneck worked fine but a clamping feedneck will definitely be a better option.

Value – I got this gun for $250 out the door, and it works great stock. Though some may consider this to be value, I look at the potential for upgrading the gun as the true value. If you take into consideration replacing the Ram w/ QEVs, LPR, installing an MQ2 valve, E2 frame with a tadao board; you can have a gun that will stand alone on the field and get a lot of looks.

Overall – Of course I am a little biased when it comes to cockers, so I must admit that has something to do with it. But if it wasn’t a great gun and I was thrilled with wgp, I wouldn’t put myself out there for them. I like the idea of being able to do so much with this gun. Yes, you can go out and buy a gun that will initially shot faster than this one, but you will not be able to upgrade or customize it nearly as much. I enjoy the options of making this gun my own, being able to upgrade nearly every part on it. So that when I’m on the field and someone says, “Hey, I have a Black Magic too!” I can say with a grin, “Yea…, but you don’t have one like mine…”
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF Hands down this is the best cocker i have ever owned, it has never let me down and still performed great when i left it stock. Iv never had a problem with this gun and the reliability is...
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: DQ
jitters93 is a Paintball photographer
Length of use: More than 1 year
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $480.00
Pros: speed, quality, light, looks, still great stock.
Cons: SF frames non adjustible, membrane pad is tricky
Hands down this is the best cocker i have ever owned, it has never let me down and still performed great when i left it stock.
Iv never had a problem with this gun and the reliability is amazing.

only ups i would suggest out of the box are a new feedneck, the wgp grip neck wont fit halos and other large neck loaders.
a ram if you find it necessary to upgrade along with detents and a barrel kit
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF have a ultimate team black magic i love it
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: knoxville
ktbkid14 is a Supporting Member
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Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 4/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 3/5 stars.
Price paid: $0.99
Pros: small and tight
Cons: sf frame sucks
have a ultimate team black magic i love it
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
Worr Game Products (WGP) Black Magic SF I love this gun! Stock was phenominal, but I wanted to make it faster. I installed a Belsales .44 Magnum Ram with QEV's, WGP Tickler LPR, Eclipse E2 Frame, MQ2 Valve and an E2 Samurai 2 Trigger. I...
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Nosanity
 
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Join Date: May 2008
Length of use: Less than 6 months
Overall Rating:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Appearance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Performance:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Reliability:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Value:
  • Currently 5/5 stars.
Price paid: $250.00
Pros: Accurate, Fast, Looks, Reliable
Cons: None
I love this gun! Stock was phenominal, but I wanted to make it faster. I installed a Belsales .44 Magnum Ram with QEV's, WGP Tickler LPR, Eclipse E2 Frame, MQ2 Valve and an E2 Samurai 2 Trigger. I have to say that once I tuned everything and got the bugs out once I installed the MQ2, this gun is BLAZING FAST! No kick found, great on air (1700 shots 68/45 est) and looks MEAN!

You can't find very many of these 05/06 Black Magics, but if you can help it, get one! If you want speed, accuracy and reliability, this gun is for you.
  This review has been rated:
  • Currently 0/5 stars.
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