Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPThe MVP is a great marker. It is extremely light and has a very fast auto trigger. the only problem i have had is that the trigger activates about halfway into being cocked so if your autotriggering...
The MVP is a great marker. It is extremely light and has a very fast auto trigger. the only problem i have had is that the trigger activates about halfway into being cocked so if your autotriggering and not getting the pump handle all the way back you might not feed. other then that grab some good paint your favorite barrel make sure your chronoing well (mines +-2) and go shoot some people
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Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPThe Marq Victory Pump - very different but very much how a pump should be.
The Bob Long MVP, like most of Bob's ideas, is out of the box. With features like a forgripless design, inclosed bolt,...
The Marq Victory Pump - very different but very much how a pump should be.
The Bob Long MVP, like most of Bob's ideas, is out of the box. With features like a forgripless design, inclosed bolt, roller bearings pump handle, set timing, and macro less design this pump is a marker that has been made with the perfect pump in mind. Now just because BL went after the perfect design dosent mean he didnt come a little short in some areas. The only two complaints I can say about the mvp are 1. The timing is off on the cocking and allows you to short stroke 2. The pump is a little louder then it could be.
The Mvp is probably the best feeling pump in the industry IMO. This is due to it being created to actually be a pump, not a converted after thought. Some people cant get past the forgripless design but I would point out that in reality if some one set out to make a pump action gun they would never put a forgrip on it! Why? Simple! You are ment to hold the pump handle! Having the forgrip gone allows you to hold the pump perfectly and stroke it without hitting the reg or adjusting the way you hold the gun. It just works. This also allows for incredable gun control.
The Mvp grip frame is fantastic. It uses the proven Bob Long handle and grips. These feel great in the hands. Some of the best but I have met people who dont like the feel.
No macroline is great. You dont have to deal with leaking fittings, no hoses getting in the way when you switch hands, it Just makes it simpler to deal with. One small oring between the frame like most hoseless highends out. Very simple. Once again, done right!.
The pump handle is nice but the grip tape takes a little to get used to. The handle is a little small but some people find that it feels great. I have seen people make custom handles that are a little fatter.
Light weight. The mvp is very light. it has alot of sweet milling which adds to that.
The stroke. The Mvp stroke is very smooth. It has 12 brass ball bearings and a brass bolt. The special thing here is as brass rubs on the other metals it gets smoother and smoother. So no lube needed and the more you use it the better it becomes. The return spring consists of two springs about as strong as the springs in your clickie pen. Combine that with the flow of the brass bearing and bolt the handle literally floats back and forth when you used it. Although this is remarkably smooth its not sloppy at all like you can find with other pump strokes.
The regulator. Now this is one thing that stands out in the crowd. There are alot of great regulators our there but the mvp regulator is just fantastic. I have used multiple mvps and each one has been +-2 over the chrono. Actually to be honost most times I would hit the same fps consitantly. 286,286,286,286,286 ect.
The asa works perfectly. When you turn off the asa the gun bleeds. Unlike other cockers no air is held in the system.
The timing. This is one of the areas that the mvp could improve on. Set timing is great for most pump players IMO. Its perfectly timed so that you wont shoot until the bolt clears the breech perfectly. The bad part of the timing is that the bolt cocks about a 1/4" before the bolt clears the breech when cocking back. This can allow you to chop a ball or miss fire if you short stroke it. Bob Long knew this when he made it. His logic is it allows you to acheive the highest rates of fire on the pump stroke. The idea is you use enough force when pumping the handle that you will naturally stroke it back far enough to clear the ball completly which proves to be true in most of the cases. It may take a little effort to get used to if you have a problem but most people I have seen have adapted to it very easily.
So to explain that simply. With a little practice you can auto-trigger very fast and dont have to worry about chopping. For the player that dosent have the need for crazy rates of fire this whole thing wont be an issue and you will enjoy a super smooth pumpstroke and trigger system.
The trigger/autotrigger. The whole auto-trigger system is really smooth and nice on the MVP. The gun was designed to be very fast and they achieved this with a dual pivot trigger system that utalizes brass bearings. This is very similar to the design that CCM just started using with the J12. The trigger has a very light pull and is very easy to auto-trigger with.
One thing to keep in mind is if the frame srews get loose your auto-trigger will stop working. All you need to do is keep the frame screws tight. Just like the CCM J12.
The MVP is a little loud and has a different sound signature then most. Its not unbareably loud but not quiet like ccms can be. The best way to describe the loudness is like that of a newer poppet such as the ego 10/11 or G6Rs. Some of the mvps had a sound similar to the "farting" sounds that other pumps can make. This sound was not with all the mvps I have used and did tend to go away as I used the pump more.
So I have heard alot of people complain about the price of $700. I think complaining about this price is rediculas. The only other high end pump that is made to be a pump is a CCM, which is in the $650-750 dollar range. The MVP comes in your choice of two colors, has fantastic milling, and alot of quality brass parts and bearings. The mvp dosent spare any expenses. Paintball is a luxery sport/hobby and paying $700 for a gun that is the top of the line and needs no upgrades is well worth it in my opinion.
Compaired to a CCM
I am going to give my quick thoughts on this compaired to the CCM. If you know pump you know that CCMs are considered the best. This is for two reasons, 1. CCMs build quality. They take such pride in their work 2. The CCM pumps are built to be pumps, this means that the parts fit perfectly together, unlike cockers with parts fitted to them.
The CCMs are built off of the sniper platform, except the new CCM J12 which uses quite a few twists. The new J12 is build out of the box and similar to the MVP in alot of ways.
I feel the MVP is very compairable to any of the CCMs. Each platform has their pluses and minuses.
The MVP has a faster and possibly smoother pump stroke. The J12 has better timing and better handle options. Both pumps have fantastic regs although I believe I prefer the MVP regulator. The J12 has a small foregrip to help lighten it but the MVP clearly wins there as it has none. The MVP is lighter then the J12. I would dare to say that the MVP is more reliable then the J12. The J12 platform is new to CCM and has a few kinks to work out. I would say the MVP is just as reliable as the other CCM models but it is simpler due to the set timing of the MVP vs the CCM.
Over all I feel that the MVP is a very solid pump and well worthy of its price tag. With the almight question of CCM or MVP on the table, I will have to say I cant answer that for you. It depends what you want. Both platforms are light, smooth, fast, reliable, consistant, accurate, and feel good. If your going for the quiter one then the CCM is the way to go but if your looking for those crazy autotrigger speeds the mvp is your poison. You will have to just use both of the guns and find out what is right for you. I will tell you that you cant go wrong with either.
Im sure someone out there will hate me for this review and hopefully others love me for it. Either way let me know your thoughts and if this was helpful. I am a pump player, I run pump teams and I use alot of pumps. I also own and operate www.yourpbfriend.com which allowes me the pleasure to use most of the guns out there and really did around in them.
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Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPSo I have used my MVP for 8 Outings, shooting around 4 Cases of paint through it now, and I can safely put a little review out.
1st thing, when you hold it, is how light the marker is... For me it's...
So I have used my MVP for 8 Outings, shooting around 4 Cases of paint through it now, and I can safely put a little review out.
1st thing, when you hold it, is how light the marker is... For me it's difficult to go from the weight of the MVP to a tradition style of marker, holding My MVP for a few games, then holding someones Etek 3 it felt like I just picked up a 20lb weight.
The markers stock barrel works fine for most paint, I haven't had more than 2 Roll outs, all the paint I have used on this marker works with the stock barrel just fine.
The Pump stroke on this pump is just absolutely superb, it's a very "Solid" feeling, it's a bit stiff if your used to CCM pump stroke, but the "Return stroke" is much more positive. Once you get the used the ergonomics of actually holding your pump like you should be, you can get the AT on this baby chugging, which is awesomely used for running and gunning, and when you move up since you can stay on target and still pump without any barrel rise.
One of the best features and most unnoticed feature is how smooth and crisp the trigger is, it is absolutely amazing. Bob didn't build a way for the user to adjust their trigger, but why change perfection?
Though the Price turn a lot of folks off from this gorgeous marker(The machining on the MVP is on a different planet in looks) You really get what you pay for, one of the best pump guns available, but that price tag really turns people off to one of the best pump markers to date.
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Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPi love this gun. ive had no problems with it
This is a nice gun
Smooth pump arm
Nice gun overall
Other than that i love this gun
It is nicer than the ccms i have shot and is nicer than the empire sniper
This gun is definitly worth the price but if it was ever to go down it would be one of the if not the best deal in paintball
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Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPThe Bob Long MVP is the best pump gun out there. With all of the innovative technology Bob has put into this pump, it never ceases to perform. The ball bearings create such a smooth pump stroke. And...
The Bob Long MVP is the best pump gun out there. With all of the innovative technology Bob has put into this pump, it never ceases to perform. The ball bearings create such a smooth pump stroke. And the air efficiency is amazing. I have doubled the paint I can go through with my 13ci/3000psi ninja tank. The only downside to this gun is the fart sound it makes when you shoot it. They have a washer mod out to remedy the sound but that also effects in chrono speed.
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Bob Long Technologies Bob Long-MVPI love this pump. The maintenance is very easy, it is very light weight and it has the fast auto trigger. 10 bps+ fast for me at least. It dose "fart" but that is part of the break in period which...
I love this pump. The maintenance is very easy, it is very light weight and it has the fast auto trigger. 10 bps+ fast for me at least. It dose "fart" but that is part of the break in period which is 10ish cases for me. It is efficient even if you auto trigger a lot.