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Eclipsed
04-18-2005, 01:25 AM
i sent them a letter

Here's the quote from PB2X:
Omnipotent Aftermarket
Two companies come to mind. One is the phony backyard field HK Army front for a merchandising pro shop (mistakenly labeled a movement) and the other is Advantage and their speedy chips, neither of which will be here tomorrow. The HK mod of lightening up the switch's spring tension allows a great deal more bounce activations. This leads to more bouncing over a lot longer duration creating more shots. This old school approach is easy to identify by refs with old school tapping of the butt of the air tank or slowly pulling the trigger or rapid fire a set number of shots - the extra shots are easy to hear. More about their ancient technology switch mod later.

The business practice of creating hype to sell product and of cloning products (stealing ideas that worked) are considered standard operating procedure in the outside world. Using those practices to sell product in the more underground or antiauthoritarian cultures, like street racing or videogames, is easy to understand. It's all about the Benjamins. But vulturing off negative aspects of our lives like newscasters sensationalizing tragedy for the sake of ratings kind of says something about anyone who would do that (and there are planety) and those who buy into it. It says they would rather fill their wallets the easy way by creating more problems for others, then fill their wallets by being part of the solution.




How can you even say that HK is a company? Its just a bunch of guys selling speedy guns.Not even a mainstream company.
But this is an aftermarket part, isnt it? Meaning in order to do it you have to contact somebody. It doesnt come standard on thre gun. No guns come standard with cheater boards...oh wait...i forgot...smart parts does. With there new "super gun" the nerve. But why doesnt this make it into the article? Is it possible because you sell ad space to them? Maybey you didnt include them because you were afraid of losing money. And I see that Advantage is negatively displayed in your article.
If they forked out money would you stop ragging on them too?

So you complain about companies that sell illegal parts that the user has to make the decision whether or not to buy, yet you completely avoid a gun that comes stock with the technology.

Surely soon you will stop worring about money and print the truth, i hope i dont have to go back to reading APG.


nick holba

empireP127.1
04-18-2005, 03:26 PM
/\ NICE /\ YO SUCH A PIMP FOR DOIN DAT..NICE WAY FOR STEPPIN UP FOR HK GOOD JOB HOM BOI...I THINK MORE PEEPS SOULD DO THAT. I LIKE WAT U SAID BOUT DA ION..HK ARMY STAYIN STRONG!!:tup:

Obey
04-18-2005, 03:40 PM
empire...please learn to use better english and please turn your cap lock off.lol

eclipsed...post a response when you get one back

empireP127.1
04-18-2005, 03:52 PM
dont hate
/\ no caps...u happy now /\

nostaglata
04-18-2005, 04:12 PM
I was banned for using all caps.

04 impy
04-18-2005, 04:17 PM
:tup: i wana see the response if they send you one

spyder_dude
04-18-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by empireP127.1
/\ NICE /\ YO SUCH A PIMP FOR DOIN DAT..NICE WAY FOR STEPPIN UP FOR HK GOOD JOB HOM BOI...I THINK MORE PEEPS SOULD DO THAT. I LIKE WAT U SAID BOUT DA ION..HK ARMY STAYIN STRONG!!:tup:


mmmmkk...:confused:

far east killa
04-18-2005, 06:34 PM
yeha you gotta post the letter the company sends back

gj for the letter

Eclipsed
04-18-2005, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Obey


eclipsed...post a response when you get one back

Hi Nick,

Wow, do you really think I care about someone pulling an ad because they don't like what we say about them? If you know me or how we do business you would realize I don't even consider those kinds of things even for a second. Larry Janecka wrote the article series and I stand behind it. At least Smart Parts is not hiding the fact their their gun does what it does.

About HK, you said "a bunch of guys selling Speedy guns" - I don't know about you, but that's a company if there ever was one. Maybe an illegal one... an under the table company, but it's a company by the way they do what they do.

We're not "ragging" on anyone. We're just trying to do journalism, not the fluff you get in other places.

John Amodea
www.pb2x.com

omfg2u
04-18-2005, 10:19 PM
wow pb2x sucks

Kovenant
04-19-2005, 02:33 AM
What a dick. Isnt journalism telling the truth? They sure didnt. Just like that one guy about the Bush documents....

Beat Crusader
04-19-2005, 02:41 AM
Props to pb2x; that was a pretty solid article and reply imo

Going back to apg ... pb2x's photography and layout is about a million times better than apg's ... and there's far less "This is where paintball began" articles =]

D3AGL3_PBALLER
04-19-2005, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Eclipsed
About HK, you said "a bunch of guys selling Speedy guns" - I don't know about you, but that's a company if there ever was one. Maybe an illegal one... an under the table company, but it's a company by the way they do what they do.
www.pb2x.com

That was a pretty solid argument right there. Regardless of where the money goes, if you are doing something for profit to feed into *PERSONAL* needs (this includes tourney fees and giving handouts to your friends) then you are conducting business. If you happen to be a group of people, that have come together and are organized in a way where you provide a service, then you are a company. If you are a company that does not file taxes on profits earned, then you are an illegal company. Pretty reasonable if you think about it...

Oc_rage
04-19-2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by 04 impy
:tup: i wana see the response if they send you one

HyperPB234
04-19-2005, 04:47 PM
jour·nal·ism -(jūrn-lzm) n.

The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

yellow journalism n.

Journalism that exploits, distorts, or exaggerates the news to create sensations and attract readers.



i dig P8nt anyway

Word?
04-19-2005, 05:57 PM
BOYCOTT PB2X

$D!NK$
04-19-2005, 07:54 PM
Mods and cheater boards have became part of the sport...they need too get the hell over it, seroiusly how many pros wipe/have cheater boards,switch....My opinion why the hell should we care we can buy the same stuff as the other guy has it's just an edge.

RenegadeLegion4
04-19-2005, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by HyperPB234
jour·nal·ism -(jūrn-lzm) n.

The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

yellow journalism n.

Journalism that exploits, distorts, or exaggerates the news to create sensations and attract readers.

i dig P8nt anyway
Very well put!

Eclipsed
04-19-2005, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Eclipsed
We're not "ragging" on anyone. We're just trying to do journalism, not the fluff you get in other places.

haha, that part makes me laugh

heres some fluff...

One is the phony backyard field HK Army front for a merchandising pro shop (mistakenly labeled a movement)

But vulturing off negative aspects of our lives

also this is pure opinion

It says they would rather fill their wallets the easy way by creating more problems for others, then fill their wallets by being part of the solution.



so i sent him this

John,

Well put, and i appreciate your magazine and its excellent photography but as an exact quote from your
last letter you said,"We're just trying to do journalism, not the fluff you get in other places."

wow...


Two companies come to mind. One is the phony backyard field HK Army front

But vulturing off negative aspects of our lives

and another that is pure opinion

It says they would rather fill their wallets the easy way by creating more problems for others, then fill their wallets by being part of the solution.

um... did actually go and talk to them and did they say that they would like to make paintball worse by making money?


or is it just....well...fluff?


nick
age 14

Word?
04-20-2005, 12:52 AM
pwnt?

lilman
04-20-2005, 11:27 PM
One of my homework assignments is to write a business letter of complaint, you gave me a great idea :-)

DyeMatrixDude187
04-24-2005, 10:49 PM
those pb2x weiners, that magazine is turning into a not so good magazine anyways, im canceling my subscription, on w. p8nt

impyslayer
04-25-2005, 05:17 PM
i hope pb2x dies

Grand Hustla(sp)
04-25-2005, 05:51 PM
i like there pics, i never rele cared for there articles :evilgrin:

Ntense_17
04-25-2005, 07:04 PM
pb2x is propaganda

ffry
04-25-2005, 07:08 PM
p8nt + facefull > everything else

Charlie_Boy
04-26-2005, 03:10 PM
Their show sucks anyways. nd so does their magazine...