I am Wrath! Worship me!

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History in the making.

[Charlie_Boy]

Um, what?


Charlie

[rangerman40]

So is Dragun making these guns for Diablo since they closed up shop selling their own brand?? Just wondering since the wrath is sorta a ripoff between a T1 and an O3........ The electronics are a bit differnt than the O3, but as for the internals and LPR they are all exactly the same as the O3........ except that bolt. It's sort of ghetto looking.

[Synesthesia]

Where'd you get that Wrath?

[splattttttt]

copy/paste'd it :D
This gat, I presume is more like the 03 as far as demensions are considered and with the threaded ram cap, though with no pre reg.
Just looks different from it. Ho yea... only 280 bills

[rangerman40]

my O3 was only 285 brand new........ with an Odyssey 3 piece barrel kit as well.

[-=S!ress=-]

Splatttttt: Didn't think I would venture here did ya!? Didn't think I would find out did ya!? Thanks to my good buddy The Inflicted I did! Oh, are you in trouble now... If you have as much as an apostrophe in the wrong spot on the guild you're in for the flaming of a life time! :P


Doesn't anyone look at the picture thread here? Screw it, I'll make a real one:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=831035

[splattttttt]

I'm guessing our noses are pointing in the same direction for the moment. I'll try not to be so predictable in the future' :evilgrin:
Peep's are wondering if a shotened Timmy bolt will fit.
I beleive an O3X bolt will, but you need an O3X. Odyssey's doesn't do spares.
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[-=S!ress=-]

Center to center of bolt pin hole and air inlet hole: 31/32"
Overall length from center of bolt pin hole to tip: 3"

I will have some custom made if I can't find some, so if you want in on this let me know.

[splattttttt]

Very nice of you, as now would be a good time to get them done.
I'm in the middle of finishing a 2k3 Piranha that has a T1 kit, I cut precisely 1" off the back of it to shorten srtoke. I have been looking for some delrin(never made, just modded bolts), and most difficult, a ram and cap for it to be done with it.
Preco has helped alot of people, but it's tough to get parts for their brand. Someone on the Dragon forum is developing ram/cap out of delrin, probably to lite for spring return, but mybe a magnetic stay? I've always felt an air return mod, with out to much drama might have been achieved on T1 with out a Timmy mod. Several peeps were able to return the ram w/out a spring, and no word on wheather or not any seal to the lower chamber had been done.
Do you have any plans for the Warth? Will you add a T board, and lighten the ram at all? I'm very curious since I don't really know you well enough:cool:

[-TC-]

Where did you get the Wrath?

[-=S!ress=-]

From my dealer. Want one? $280 plus about $10 for shipping. We have 3 of each color.

Currently my plan for the Wrath is get a replacement spring for the one I bent up by putting the noid back together incorrectly. After that, we'll see. I honestly can't see anything that I would change with it.... 15* ASA will be one thing...magnetic trigger mod will be another...lighter trigger switch....and that's it...I honestly can't think of another thing....

[splattttttt]

you forgot to mention the bolt:)

[-=S!ress=-]

The obvious needs not to be mentioned around those with like minds.

[Spartacus]

Could the ram be lightened at all? ANY internals that could be shaved down to lighten things up a bit for lower operating pressure? That ram looks pretty slim compared to the stock Dragun T1 ram...

[-=S!ress=-]

Lighter internals does NOT mean it requires less pressure to propel the ball. I don't have time to toy with this marker right now so I couldn't tell you. Actually I already sold the marker I took pics of. I can get more as my local store has plenty in stock, but I just don't have the time or use for one right now.

New Designz never returned my e-mail concerning the bolts. I'll call them tomorrow if I have the time.

[splattttttt]

You're still interested in a delrin bolt, even though you sold it? And why? I would have loved a review on it.

[-=S!ress=-]

I didn't get to use it in a game but I put a lot of paint through it. The review is great. It's a very comfortable marker that is light, fast, EXTREMELY consistent, and quite efficient (my very rough calculation is 1.2k shots on a 68/3k)

I'm interested in the bolts because there are so many being used around here now. Also, I see this gun becoming very popular. Being the first to have delrin bolts for purchase would be quite profitable.

[splattttttt]

I would presume 100 would go quick, which Delrin material do you like best? Will you just put o-rings around the intake and skip the one in the front, maybe an angled intake?

[Anubis-1]

looks like spudnukl already has an O3 bolt... (assuming that fits a wrath)
http://www.spudnukl.com/odyssey.html

[Spartacus]

Awesome, thanks Anubis-1! Now... Someone please tell me FOR SURE that an O3 bolt will fit, because if they do, that bolt is mine...

EDIT: My bad on the lower operating pressure, but it would help with eficiency...

[jjdustr340]

S!ress--do you think that the stock V/A could be swapped out with one for an Autococker? I ask because I'm thinking thats about the only way to use a different reg and still be able to have a gauge on there if the reg itself doesn't have a port for one. I've seen Cocker V/A's with gauge ports and I'm thinking the hose for the LPR could be run through the hole where the cocking arm would be on a Cocker.

[splattttttt]

JJ, I don't think they're interchangeable with stacktube designs, try the link though, and check out the custom accsessories tab
http://www.warpig.com/linkout.cgi?www.fbmfactory.com

[-=S!ress=-]

Yes, I believe it WILL accept cocker vert ASA's but I have not tried it.

We just received two of these IONs at TAG today. We haven't gotten to really test them as we are EXTREMELY busy with LA Open going on and all. I'll update later. Although, over the chronograph the Ion was all over the place; where as the wrath was DEAD ON consistant.

[jjdustr340]

S!ress--hey, if it's not too much to ask...hehehe...could you try out a cocker V/A one one of those Wraths. About the only thing holding me back form getting one right now would be the fact that you have to use a reg with a built in gauge port. Thank you sooooo much.

[TeamIronR]

WOW looks just like a SPYDER/T1

[d34d1]

dont tell me you just said a wrath looks just like a spyder/T1 cause they definitely dont mr timmy which does look like a spyder/T1

[IloveMPPgames]

You, sir, are a ****ing moron. You own a pneumatic spyder yet you bash them. Also, it's inches smaller than a timmy, operates completely different, is way more consistent, way more efficient, and costs 1/3 of the price. So uh...good call there.

*visualizes teamironr screaming and crying as he throws his gun into the trash.

[splattttttt]

The Wraths reliabilty has yet to pfrove it self, of course it has extreeme potential. Maybe as good, caugh*/or better than a Timmy. I agree that most of what we pay for these days is the name, and names dont shoot paintballs.

[khbaur330162]

well actually the wrath is a modified spyder. thats if you consider the timmy a modified spyder too. it uses the common dual stacked tubes with the bolt, striker/ram, and the usual valve. i think that the wrath much like any other spring returned gun will cycle over 3o cps. if you lighten the spring, lighten the ram, get a delrin bolt, qev, and maybe dremel a little away at the main valves head and get a little more blowback, you could get it cycling over 30. with the new t board i think this will be able to match the speed of any hopper, other than that of the q-loader which is rediculous.

[Spartacus]

jjdustr340- I ordered a Cocker VA (15*) to see if it would fit. It'll probably be a week or so before I know as I got if off ebay (didn't want to spend $25 on a part that may not work)... but I'll keep you posted...

[jjdustr340]

Thanks Spartacus---I was planning on trying one out maybe next weekend. It'll be too sweet if it works. Lapco has some nice ones w/ gauge ports, I think that's the way I'm gonna go.

[Spartacus]

I really don't care for the gauge ports. The 15* is what I'm going for. I'm hoping that at that angle I can actually unscrew my HPR without having to take the grip frame off... If I was to move the gauge, I'd drill and tap the body right behind the LPR, which I still might do.