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DeltaX
01-04-2007, 01:58 PM
Hi all, thought that this was kind of interesting. BTW, I'm not bashing
DP (I love my new fusion), I just thought I'd put this out there.
Basically I ordered a new V2 fusion from crazyballer a month ago. The poppit was not making a good seal or something and had to be lubed. Well, the front frame screw unscrewed no sweat but the back screw was obviously already stripped because I could not get the allen key to grip the screw head(using same size key as used on front screw) I also visually saw the screw was stripped. I then sent it off to DP and eventually they send me a new gun. Here are a lot of differences I noticed between the 2 markers' upon arival:

GUN 1. no macroline included (wasnt really a problem, i had a spare from my bko)
GUN 2. maroline included

GUN 1. Barrel condom not neatly placed like in gun 2
GUN 2. Barrel condom placed neatly in package

GUN 1. No bag for allen key set
GUN 2. Incuded bag for allen key set(I guess you can use the bag for small parts that are easily lost as well)

GUN 1. Manual and warranty card placed in BOTTOM of gun package, had to search for the manual and warranty card.
GUN 2. Manual and warranty card placed neatly in TOP of package, for a nice presentation

GUN 1. (MAIN DIFFERENCE) Ram is already pre-lubed (with a fair amount), with shocker lube, I read in the "What lube should I use for a fusion thread" or something like that, that when the fusions are teched they are lubed up with shocker lube before sent back.
GUN 2. Ram NOT pre-lubed with shocker lube, lightly lubed at that.


Well anyways, just thought I'd put this out there, and I'm not trying to bash DP. The fusion is a great gun and they have excellent customer service. I will be keeping my fusion, however I thought this was thread worthy.

Anyways, your thoughts??

Barnhill
01-04-2007, 02:21 PM
Maybe it was a mistake.

They happen at times. I remember that Sears sold my bicycle to another customer when I had it in there for warranty maintenance. SO even big companies can make mistakes.

ownage312
01-04-2007, 03:34 PM
All markers are tested. So you might not know if they were placed bag incorrectly. But nothing major is missing.

J-MoNeY916
01-04-2007, 04:28 PM
Maybe they shot it and played around with it before you got it. You can't blame DP if you got it through someone else, you don't know what the store might have done with it before shipping it to you.

Another thing, why do you care how neatly someone placed a barrel condom in your box, you are going to take it out anyways. Same for the warranty card/manual.

These "differences" do not mean that your gun was refurbed. Just has to do with who opened or packaged your gun.

If the gun was refurbed they would have replaced all the damaged parts before sending it out.... they wouldn't over look a stripped screw, they would replace it.

Arstron
01-04-2007, 05:32 PM
I didnt get a bag for my allen wrenches :(

DPFusion
01-04-2007, 06:44 PM
All the inconsistencies you've mentioned are a direct result of TESTING MARKERS. We will make sure the techs are a bit 'neater' next time! :tup:

fds
01-04-2007, 07:12 PM
my allan wrench didn't come with a bag either :tdown: to no bag

xYodax
01-04-2007, 07:43 PM
i got no bag

bunkerbuster68
01-04-2007, 07:58 PM
i dident get a little bag either

DeltaX
01-04-2007, 09:26 PM
LoL, all you guys should tell DP you want a plastic bag now! It's only the coolest thing ever. Anyways, just wanted to see what everyone thought of that. No hard feelings. Well, time to go study for my physics mid term, yay :(

DeltaX
01-04-2007, 09:28 PM
BTW, anyone know why pbnation still has no fusion sub forum? I think pbreview already has one if I'm not mistaken.

assassinationACI
01-04-2007, 09:50 PM
Yep PBR does have a sub forum for DP already. Finally someone put it up, if only people are there more often.

fds
01-04-2007, 09:59 PM
yea theres only like 12 reviews and mine is second most helpful (got banned from PBR somehow and use Cbunker)


and that plastic bag is annoying me :(

Barnhill
01-05-2007, 07:21 AM
I didnt get a bag for my Allen wrenches either!! LOL

I cant get to PBR from work, and since that is where I do the majority of my "surfing" I dont even think about it when I get home.

fds
01-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Just got my 3rd fusion in the mail (hopefully it won't be another lemon) and it had a bag :tup:

i could die happy

SilviaEvo
01-06-2007, 01:27 AM
i dont have a bag!!!!!

DeltaX
01-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Just got my 3rd fusion in the mail (hopefully it won't be another lemon) and it had a bag :tup:

i could die happy

Wow, why so many fusions??

fds
01-06-2007, 12:07 PM
One was the V1. had a lot of problems factory stripped screw, reg creep, detents, improperly milled striker housing

the second one was imho a refusbished, and have proof that it was, one i have no idea how any of the problems came about they said it was shipping problems with that leak coming out of adjustment screw, VA screw was loose apon arivle at my house, top part of reg wouldn't come off, VA screw that was loose literaly broke in half the threads were in the body. So idk what was happening with that.

now i'm on my third one and hopefully it'll be better. Just lubed it not going to touch it until i play

AKMetal
01-06-2007, 01:19 PM
... thats comforting :dodgy:

fds
01-06-2007, 01:52 PM
well i have a slightly better feeling about this gun. everything comes out easier and nothing is loose

ownage312
01-06-2007, 06:50 PM
Well anyways, just thought I'd put this out there, and I'm not trying to bash DP. The fusion is a great gun and they have excellent customer service. I will be keeping my fusion, however I thought this was thread worthy.

Anyways, your thoughts??

usally this means bashing :P

JJW319
01-06-2007, 10:22 PM
All you guys think you have it bad not having a plastic bag, eh?

Well I don't even have a freaking Fusion yet :(

lol

CASCAN
01-06-2007, 11:57 PM
I am so sorry!

fds
01-07-2007, 10:05 AM
All you guys think you have it bad not having a plastic bag, eh?

Well I don't even have a freaking Fusion yet :(

lol

I have a plastic bag and a fusion:P

Barnhill
01-07-2007, 12:25 PM
DAMN YOU!! I only have a Fusion and I want the plastic bag!! ;)

are2
01-07-2007, 04:03 PM
so what DP slipped a little it still shotts just as good as your other one right?

Don't get so riled up about it and let it go.

dyzfunctioned
01-07-2007, 04:38 PM
No plastic bag for me either. =/

fds
01-07-2007, 05:27 PM
so what DP slipped a little it still shotts just as good as your other one right?

Don't get so riled up about it and let it go.

its just a joke, nothing serious

Barnhill
01-08-2007, 07:34 AM
so what DP slipped a little it still shotts just as good as your other one right?

Don't get so riled up about it and let it go.

Seriously, its just a joke.

Way to be a joykill. MAN! ;)

gtospec35
01-08-2007, 03:32 PM
All you guys think you have it bad not having a plastic bag, eh?

Well I don't even have a freaking Fusion yet :(

lol

Consider yourself lucky. Notice how many broken ones there are in this forum alone? Let that be a sign.. these guns are crap. Save your money and just buy a PMR or something, I BEG you. Fusion lovers, flame all you want, I couldn't care less. DP screwed me over terribly. I still haven't gotten the RAPS asa I was promised ages ago. Luckily I was able to sell the fusion.

Rhino1XL
01-08-2007, 03:58 PM
Whoa !!!!

Murderous rampage ????

Wheres my plastic bag ?????

Must be in gtospec35 box !!!!!


LOL............................................... .

/thread

fds
01-08-2007, 06:05 PM
Murderous rampage ????


Thats what i was thinking

One month hes nowhere to be found and today hes flaming the fusion like theres no tommorrow

gtospec35
01-09-2007, 04:29 PM
Because I gave DP yet another month to come through for me before I started voicing my opinion. They haven't, so here I am.

D_Hawkes44
01-09-2007, 05:23 PM
I think this guy :tup: is part of a company like smart parts or dye/proto or some other major company and is trying to bash on the fusion just to make their guns look more appealing! I vote we BAN his IP address!

fds
01-09-2007, 05:56 PM
if the misc forums had a mod :dodgy:

D_Hawkes44
01-09-2007, 07:13 PM
if the misc forums had a mod :dodgy:

lol yeah but its rediculous that people resort to constantly bashing the same product ((oh and also i like the flame thread you made for him extremely creative!!!))

fds
01-09-2007, 07:44 PM
((oh and also i like the flame thread you made for him extremely creative!!!))

thank you :tup: