Question about CP regs?

[Zapbranagan]

Hey Guys,

I have my Quest coming any day now but I also have a CP reg for it. I've read the manual on how to set the regs. But what I wondering is how do I do it with a CP reg? Manual says set the HPR so you see three threads showing. Thanks for you hepl guys.

[Physcojosh]

Screw in the Set screw for Cp reg all the way in to cut air.. Then Work your way out and Chrono it from there.

The Easyiest way to Set the quest is to Set the Lpr at 80 and then chrono thru Reg

[younggunna6898]

josh^^^is that what the reccomended lpr pressure is or is it just what you have yours at?

[jeffreyjames]

believe recommended lpr press. is 80-90. lots of people run it lower if they can....but youll want it a little high like is recommended for the break in period at least.
think josh is lucky enough to get his to work at 50psi. and a really low dwell. but not all can do that.
you can set your cp like he says too, or you can hook it up to your tank and then thread it into an asa with a gauge to set the pressure(or just find out what the pressure is once you get it chronod). fep recommends around 2-220 input from the hpr. but that will change some depending on your velocity.

[Physcojosh]

:tup: :tup:

ya but lately my Eff seems Lower then my Last quest..

seems i use almost 1000Psi for a hopper and 3pods!

[MstrKey]

My suggestion is to use the stock FEP reg instead of the CP. Cp regs have horrid drop off, especially at lower pressures. They rate low on every test I've ever seen. The stock reg is much better.

[younggunna6898]

use the stock reg, just put and oring over the threads and the fiting will be out of the way

[jeffreyjames]

thats odd. everybody else raves about cp regs. i guess maybe its just cause theyre "popular" and everybody has to have what everyone else has. me, im satisfied with stock reg. it was fine before and better with the oring on it to move the fitting around. problem solved, money saved

[craige2]

yea the cp regs are real overated they are terrible the stock reg takes a little bit to break in but it cronoes much better then any cp reg i ever used

[XQUESTX]

word took off cp and put the stock back on today, now tomorow i will make some new triggers

[jeffreyjames]

like i said. the stock reg is fine with me and putting an oring on it to move the fitting makes it that much better. and i didnt have to spend another 70 bucks to do it.(and i just happened to have an oring that would fit, so it cost me nothing) besides, the fitting placement is going to become a non-issue when they start putting out the new regs with the different placement. although i guess theres always going to be folks out there that have to change everything they can, just because they can. not because it makes a performance improvement.(dumbasses with too much money)

[gremlin75]

My suggestion is to use the stock FEP reg instead of the CP. Cp regs have horrid drop off, especially at lower pressures. They rate low on every test I've ever seen. The stock reg is much better.

Id like to see those test. Ive seen one "test"(rather unscientific to say the least) where the CP did not perform as well as a sidwinder and 2-liter and in that "test" it was not say if that cp had been decently taken care of or not. As any one know the greatest of regs will perform like crap if they arnt maintaned well.

I sent one of my old CP's to Haveblue and he said it performed quite well. I have run CP regs aolmost since they were first released. During that time I have run them on all my matrixs (aka low pressure guns) and several other guns with no drop off and quite good efficency (+/-2fps with good paint)

later
gremlin

[jeffreyjames]

indeed. i had a friend that bought an 05 matrix and a cp reg at the same time to switch out. not because there was anything wrong with the hyper 2 (which i understand is a pretty good reg) but just because he wanted to and "thought" it was better.

[Zapbranagan]

Sorry guys I ended up using my PI reg. Refer to this thread, http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=22212776#post22212776. I'm having problems.

[F0rgiven]

use the stock reg, just put and oring over the threads and the fiting will be out of the way

put the o-ring where? over the threads where it screws into the ASA?

[Physcojosh]

Behind them.. But the Oring All the Way down past the threads on the reg, so it rests on the flat part..

[jeffreyjames]

yes forgiven, put it over the threads where it goes into the asa. if you just put it on top of the threads it tends to move around and not do what you want.

[MstrKey]

Well i don't have the exact tests, but the most recent one I remember reading was in facefull magazine. I'd say......oh 6 months ago. However.....I'll do you one better. You can test your own.
Turn your gun on, air it up......and fire as fast as you can while looking at your LPR guage. The needle should drop for each shot and then return exactly to where it was at rest before dropping again. If it doesn't, and returns slightly lower than the "at rest" setting, you're reg is "shooting down". My CP drops about 20-30 psi on my ion......which means if it's set at 150 when I'm not shooting....after about 5-10 quick shots it's now reading about 130 tops. Terrible. With my 2 liter on the same gun.....the guage barely even moves. Now that's a GOOD reg :) I'm not going to tell you every CP is as bad as mine.....but they are highly over rated. Not to mention I can't find a 90 degree macro that will fit on the bottom of my CP.......which is just a huge oversite on CP's part. Tsk tsk tsk. There's a reason they're so cheap :)


Id like to see those test. Ive seen one "test"(rather unscientific to say the least) where the CP did not perform as well as a sidwinder and 2-liter and in that "test" it was not say if that cp had been decently taken care of or not. As any one know the greatest of regs will perform like crap if they arnt maintaned well.

I sent one of my old CP's to Haveblue and he said it performed quite well. I have run CP regs aolmost since they were first released. During that time I have run them on all my matrixs (aka low pressure guns) and several other guns with no drop off and quite good efficency (+/-2fps with good paint)

later
gremlin

[gremlin75]

lol...Trust me I know how to test regs, Ive been around for a while ;)

Sucks that you got a bad one but it does happen no matter which company you go with. All the testing I have done have showed the cp is no worse then several of the sidewinders(The industry standard for quite a few years) I have owned including my current one. No doubt the 2-liter will do better, it is with out a doube the Best reg ever made for paintball (and its price reflects that)

Also ever regs pressure drops as soon as you pull the trigger. The key thing with regs is how fast that reg can recharge. The faster the rechage the less the pressure SEEMS to drop and the more consistant the reg will be (again the 2-liter wins hands down over any other reg currently out that I have tested or seen tested)

As far as the 90* filling this goes on the CP...well sounds like you bought a CP long version. Theses are made with the streight fitting recessed into the body and that fitting is not ment to be replaced with 90* fitting. Not to be a dick but you cant blame the company for lack of research on your part.

Im not saying the CP reg is The Best reg out. As its not that goes to the 2-liter. What I am saying is for the price it is a killer reg and I would definitely put it in the top 5 regs out right now.

later
gremlin

[Alphy]

From the actual measured data that I have seen in the past, the CP's are half decent but not the best out. Yes they do preform better then the sidewinders, but not as well as the 2 liters, PI's, and a couple others.

The scary thing is that the stock ion regs are pretty killer(IF you get one that functions 100%).

[MstrKey]

Well I'm not exactly a newb at paintball either. This is my 17th year playing, and in all that time I think my CP is perhaps the worst performing regulator I've ever seen at low pressure. Granted low pressure may not be it's optimum operating raange and I may have one of lesser quality than most.
However.......as far as the fitting goes...come on. I received this regulator in a trade deal and didn't buy it. You can't tell me it's my fault they made a reg that doesn't accept the standard industry fittings though...that's just silly. The truth is, they messed up, already ran the lot and now they're dumping them cheap lol. It's a time honoured tradition in the paintball world :)
Regardless, if you want maximum performance from your gun.......spend the extra money on one of the top regulators out there. The extra money usually isn't a lot, and the benefit far out weights the added cost.



As far as the 90* filling this goes on the CP...well sounds like you bought a CP long version. Theses are made with the streight fitting recessed into the body and that fitting is not ment to be replaced with 90* fitting. Not to be a dick but you cant blame the company for lack of research on your part.

Im not saying the CP reg is The Best reg out. As its not that goes to the 2-liter. What I am saying is for the price it is a killer reg and I would definitely put it in the top 5 regs out right now.

later
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