Some Maintenance ?'s

[Gailon]

Hey guys...decided to do some maint. checks when I got home today in preparation for tomorrow and found 2 things that kind of concerned me:

1) The W.A.S. problem. So, I've been hoping that my WAS board doesn't need fixing. Last Thursday the 20th I put in a brand new battery, turned it on, then turned it off. Didn't go playing last weekend (:( ) so the battery hasn't seen much usage. Every morning since then before work, I turn it on for a minute, pull the trigger a few, then turn it off. Well this afternoon I finally aired it up a week later and after a few dry fires, I get the blinking red indicator *sigh*. So I'm assuming this means I got a bad board. Going to give it one last try tomorrow (new battery today) and maybe call FEP late tomorrow.

Okay that wasn't TOO bad...it was kinda expected...but here's my real question:

2) What is supposed to happen in the forward position of "Maintenance Mode"?? So I haven't done any actual counts, but I've been feeling that I haven't been getting the best of efficiency running at 75 PSI and 8 Dwell. Then today I tried out my Maint Mode. But what is it supposed to be when you pull the trigger? Totally silent? When I pulled the trigger, there was air coming down my barrel. Thinking maybe it's not supposed to be like that, I replace the front bolt o-ring, front pin o-ring, and middle 017 with a urethane. Got back into Maint mode and same air sound coming down the barrel. Is that what it's supposed to do then?

[Gailon]

Okay fine I'll make it shorter:

What is the maintance mode forward position supposed to do? When I pull my trigger I still get air down the barrel. Is it supposed to be sealed?

[LU_aDaK]

is maintenence mode practice mode?

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i believe its the display mode. just for dry firing.

[Gailon]

Maybe it's just the WAS board. If you look at the WAS manual page 11-12..."Maintenance mode" makes the solenoid open and move the bolt forward. It'll stay open as long as you keep the trigger pulled.

[Gailon]

Maintenance Mode
If you hold the trigger for 6 full seconds (until the LED lights up blue) while turning on
the power, the marker will be in ‘maintenance mode™’.
This mode allows you to determine if you have any leaks in your bolt assembly.
The Quest is a very unique marker design. When the bolt is fully in the back or the
front position, it should never leak or otherwise transfer air through the bolt. The only
time air is transferred to the bolt assembly (to expel a ball) is while the bolt is in the
forward motion, moving from the back to the front position.
While in maintenance mode, when you pull the trigger the solenoid will stay engaged
for as long as the trigger is held, causing the bolt to move and stay locked forward until
you release the trigger. This is a great way to determine if you have an o-ring problem
on the forward stroke of the bolt. Without this capability, you would never be able to
diagnose a problem with some of the o-rings. Never hold the trigger for more than just
a few seconds, as this could possibly cause the solenoid coil to overheat and become
damaged.

[Gailon]

When I do that and hold the trigger I get a hissing in the barrel. I'm not sure exactly how to read how that's written and whether that hissing is supposed to be there or not. I'll just call FEP tomorrow I guess and let ya'll know =)

[LU_aDaK]

kew kew.

[Gailon]

Hehe it's hard finding people w/ the WAS board experience, which is what i'm having trouble with ATM lol

[jeffreyjames]

sounds to me from what i read there(and in my own manual) that if its leaking when you do it you got a seal problem. and from what i hear that usually means the middle pin oring. but ill wait to hear what fixes it, since im a newbie owner.

[Gailon]

Hmm yeah didn't replace the mid pin oring, just the front...I'll give that a try when I get to the field =)

Going to call later today (when FEP might actually be awake hehe)

[ShockerGEEk]

When in maintenance mode, with the bolt in the open position there should be no air leaking. When you hold the trigger down, and the bolt is in the closed position, you should have no air leaking. As jefferyjames said...I believe it is the middle pin o-ring also.

[Gailon]

Well crap...then I have to figure out what's wrong b/c when the bolt is closed (trigger down) there's air. Lemme go change out that middle pin oring too.

Just a thought...could it have anything to do with the breech urethane oring? It's still in there, but I don't want to think about how the heck i'd get it out if it needs to be replaced

[Gailon]

Woo hoo! that did it! Thanks guys! I don't think the troubleshooting manual talks about that oring at all.

Now to just figure out whether I need to send in my WAS board. How exactly "battery eating" are the bad ones? I put in a new battery yesterday, played with it all day today (4 hours), and it's still alive right now.

God I'm glad it wasn't that breech oring

[ShockerGEEk]

Thats good that you got it fixed. As far as the battery eating WAS boards......not sure how bad they really are. Just keep an extra couple in your bag, and you should be fine.

[jeffreyjames]

glad you got your gun worked out. wow..i think that means i actually understood something i read in the manual.

[Gailon]

Hehe I guess so! Though I haven't been able to find anything about that O-ring in the manual lol.

No body home at that number Dave left on the WAS post. Left a message, guess I'll call back monday.

Just found out I'm going out again tomorrow woo hoo so i'll get to try out and see how my efficiency is and whether my battery is still alive lol

[jeffreyjames]

well the store i bought mine at their tech just went thru the class for this gun. yes, i have a local quest tech!! when he was demoing it for me a couple weeks ago and telling me about it he said something like 90% of leaking problems would be that mid pin oring. and if it becomes an issue a urethane one will fix alot of it. i probably spent a good hour talking with him about the gun and things about it. he pretty much sold me on the gun because before that i was going to get a shocker. then i found this forum and read up on what kinds of experiences you guys have had with it and i just had to have one. and to know how i feel about it just read my "holy cow batman" post

[Gailon]

Cool. I might look into getting a urethan for that middle one. But for now the buna seems to be working perfectly!! Thanks so much!

Another thing to be careful of...while relubing today at the field I didn't lube the very last large oring on the pin. When I aired up, i got a leak out the back of the pin. so just be careful everyone =)

Ask him what he thinks about the WAS problems =)